Episode #216: Stories from the Sea: Wooden Boats in Film & Fiction, Part 2

Join us this week for part two of Ryan Foland’s exploration of the Newport Beach Wooden Boat Festival, which took place June 13-14, 2025 at Balboa Yacht Club. 

In this second installment, you’ll hear racing tales from the legendary Dick McNish (the 92-year-old who races aboard an 88-year-old classic yawl, reunions with Good Jibes alumni Jennifer Keil and Steve Paljieg, a rumored game of nautical strip poker, a viral stolen boat, and a sailing joke you’ll never finish laughing about.

Here’s a sample of what you’ll hear in this episode: 

• The relationship between humans and boats
• Meeting photographer Steve Jost 
• Pabst Blue Ribbon brewing history
• Viral yacht theft
• Racing wisdom

Learn more at NewportBeachWoodenBoatFestival.com and connect with Ryan at Ryan.Online.

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Check out the episode and show notes below for much more detail.

Show Notes

• Part 2: Stories from the Sea: Wooden Boats in Film & Fiction, On Location with Host Ryan Foland
  • [0:14] Welcome to Good Jibes with Latitude 38
  • [0:43] This episode is brought to you by OceanPlanet Energy
  • [0:57] Interview with John about his Gartside 37 pilothouse cutter
  • [2:52] The 20-year build story – craftsmanship and dedication
  • [6:09] Hollywood connection – Key Largo with Humphrey Bogart inspiration
  • [9:25] Interview with Dick McNish and the Cheerio II – owned since 1980
  • [9:57] The Errol Flynn connection – brief 1937 ownership documented
  • [10:46] Racing stories – Ensenada races in their late 80s/90s
  • [12:45] Racing wisdom – “Good crew” is the secret to success
  • [16:40] This episode is brought to you by OceanPlanet Energy
  • The Origins of 102
  • [17:36] Tour of Miss 102 with owner Rusty Reyes
  • [18:33] Pabst Blue Ribbon (PBR) brewing history – the “102 steps” origin story
  • [19:16] Miss 102 beauty contest and 1950s marketing history
  • [22:51] Journey from San Francisco to Newport Beach for the festival
  • [25:10] Interview with Ron Geisman about his Vertue class boat
  • [26:38] Perfect condition after 58 years – testimony to craftsmanship
  • [28:04] Laurent Giles – the demanding British naval architect
  • [30:42] This episode is brought to you by OceanPlanet Energy
  • Meeting Legends
  • [31:37] Meeting Victor DeMarquette aboard the Chevala – 1954 bay boat
  • [33:19] Jimmy Cagney won Bay Island in a poker game story
  • [37:11] Choosing the Wild Goose – John Wayne’s legendary yacht
  • [39:40] Evan’s vintage boat restoration passion – Whimsy, the 1943 Mandella
  • [40:40] Three-time Catalina Ski Race winner with fascinating history
  • [41:40] The hydrofoil technology – next level engineering from 1960
  • [45:26] The boat restoration process – 15 launch attempts to get it right
  • [46:28] The viral yacht theft story – rebuilding from insurance auction
  • [51:06] Meeting photographer Steve Jost – 35 years capturing classic yachts
  • [53:00] Windward Passage book project collaboration
  • [53:41] Jennifer Keil‘s reflections on the Western Flyer and John Steinbeck
  • [54:39] The relationship between humans and boats 
  • Make sure to follow Good Jibes with Latitude 38 on your favorite podcast spot and leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts
  • Check out the November 2025 issue of Latitude 38 Sailing Magazine
  • Theme Song: “Pineapple Dream” by Solxis

Transcript:

Please note: this transcript is not 100% accurate.

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I’m here with the beautiful  Jennifer. that?  Keel like the boats. Wow. How did that go? How did that work?

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Welcome to Latitude 38’s Good Jibes with this latest episode brought to you by our friends at Ocean Planet Energy.  Ahoy, I’m here in Newport Beach on the docks looking at a whole bunch of wooden boats. Welcome to this week’s Good Jibes episode brought to you by Latitude 38. I’m on location at the  Newport Beach Wooden Boat Show and it’s a grand old time. We got small speed boats  from the 40s and 50s. We got power boats, we got sail boats, we got all kinds of stuff and

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enjoy as I interview and hear stories from various people  as they talk about their boats, as they talk about their life on the water, and you know, I think we got at least one good joke.

00:57

Tell us about this beautiful boat that we’re on because I feel surrounded by wood. I feel very sturdy.  I feel like we’re on something that could weather quite a storm. It’s just on the Western Flyer and just you even kind of have similar tones to just this classy classicness. So tell us about it. Yeah. Well, thank you very much. So  well, the story starts kind of with  I’m Not Worthy. I just bought this boat last year and it was built by Guy and Estelle Kerwin in

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Victoria, British Columbia on a Paul Gartside design. It’s called a Gartside 37 pilot house cutter. Guy and Estelle spent about 20 years building her  and they’re both very accomplished artists and very creative people  and he said that he had  so much time to build it that he was able to spend a lot of time doing a lot of fun details.  So I’ve had it for about eight months now and it’s just  one of the great thrills is

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being around a kind of a true piece of artwork. And the longer you’re in it, the longer, the more details you start to see and notice. Like the kitchenette is still laid out all about the view. So when you’re sitting here, it’s just terrific to It is a great view out of the kitchen. Yes. And then- And they’re almost like square portholes. It has like a porthole feel, but it’s square. But they all open up and it’s got that old school- No, they open in. Right. Thank you. And they-

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But it’s got an old school pilot house cutter feel which really attracted to me So I was selling I’ve this is my fourth boat and I was selling my do for which was a great boat but much more like RV and it was great for the kids over at Catalina and now they’re grown one to something smaller that I could cruise and I’m a builder so I want something I could work on and maintain So I’m just committed to not changing one thing on the boat other than upgrading some systems. I put a new Volvo engine in it

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He was old school, tough dog, so no autopilot, right? No music. uh But I hid the speakers. I needed a big toolbox, but I hid the toolbox. So  I’ve done a bunch of stuff. But it’s really a testament to somebody that’s heart and soul,  is a craftsman  and had a deep understanding. was a very accomplished shipwright and was in close contact with the designer Paul Gartside throughout. And while Gartside did the hull and the first pass in the design,

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Guinness-Dell took it from there and really evolved it into something very special and I think very personal from them.  But it’s also very purpose-built because it’s got  very robust heating and electrical. So I think they’re ready to do the Northwest Passage  and just never be seen again because it’s got like four deep cell Royce batteries. It’s got a big hurricane radiant heating system, full inverter systems. They’re ready to put solar, which I don’t need.

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My plans are much more oriented toward week at a time. I want to become an expert on the Channel Islands. And that’s just going to kind of be my focus. Wow. That is a lot. How long is she? It’s 37 feet plus the bow sprit, which is about a little bit over a little eight feet. And it draws six and a half feet, about 13 foot beam. And it’s 28,000 pounds. Wow. But it sails like a dream. It is just gorgeous. I’m used to regular standard rigs and that

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Gaff rig is just glorious. Very, very smooth. Very gentlemanly sailor in Southern California weather. I’ve got a 34 foot cow. She’s 1977. And this boat feels a lot bigger with just a few feet bigger. Yeah. Like a lot. Yeah. Well, I think it was like the pilot house for one. And then just the attention to detail. You know, there’s no corner left unturned. Great access to everything. And I’ll show you some of the bronze castings and fittings later. But everywhere the interior.

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is always open to the hall so there’s nothing catched. It smells great. It’s never had a musty smell.  It’s a perfectly dry hall, which is great. It’s a double cedar plank, but it’s epoxy also. So it’s perfectly dry. Bulletproof. Perfectly dry. Yeah. And then he’s just spent all the,  he spent a lot of time on colors. I saw photographs of his art studio and the walls were covered with elevations and drawings with different color studies  and very subtle differences in color. Like I’m looking at him going,

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Are those two different colors? The paint splotches. mean, like, I see the same color, but he’s like, wow. 100%. Yeah, that’s a huge bowsprit that comes out. Yeah. And so that’s retractable. Yeah. Oh, it is. Yeah. Which is nice. But when I bought it from me, he listen, if you can swing the cost of the slip fees, just leave it out because it’s another 30 minutes to get it out every time you want to go sailing. So, you know, I rent that bowsprit every month is, you know, whatever it is.

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So it does count against you. Yeah, they do charge me for it every You can’t reel it back in. I can. But again, every time I want to go out, it’s 20 or 30 minutes in and out. And I just cautioned that it would be less time I’d be on the water. So  I’ll bite the bullet. Now, the  boat show is all about Hollywood and stories. Do know if you have any good stories? I know you’re new owner. Does  she have any good stories?  You know, other than I

06:09

The build for me is the most amazing story of all 20 years to build a boat  is quite a story.  And one man and his fortitude and consistency for me, that’s the biggest story. But I love the end of Key West with Humphrey Bogart and he’s in a pilot house. You it’s more like a  Hinkley style picnic boat, but this camera zooms in and I.

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promise you that there was some thought of that last scene of that movie with Bogart. So when they said, does your boat have anything to do with Hollywood? That was all I could think of. That works. It’s close enough. This is awesome. Well, thanks for letting us on your boat and telling us a little bit about it. Well, thank you. Yeah. This might be a fun story  to figure out how to get it to our Latitude 38 readers. We’re always looking for different stories and stuff.  you can always submit story ideas or editorial at Latitude 38. Great.

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This is media worthy. This would be great to have people put pictures and visuals to what you’ve got going on.  And then I’m sure there’s a lot of stories to come. Absolutely. Thank you very much. I appreciate you. I love your magazine too. Thank you for all your work. Well, know, it’s nice to have that, the physical piece. And in a new digital world, we’re trying to expand through the podcast and  hopefully the readership comes to the podcast and people who’ve never heard of the magazine come to the podcast to get to the readers. So eh it’s really fun to just share stories  and

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all of these boats kind of embody the, I don’t know, the inspiration of the high seas. And I think all of this  antiquity that I see really brings that back as opposed to looking out into the harbor and seeing all these crazy brand new fancy crazy boats. So there’s just like a whole nostalgia in the air when like, think the time when things were a little simpler and a time  where people were more meticulous and it’s just nice to sit back and hang out. Sure, more soulful period. Yeah. And the story of the Western Flyer is just

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best story of the boat show for me.  is. It’s very cool. I was on there talking with the captain and checking it out. This feels like a little tender too, too. That’s right. I feel like it would nicely. We can follow them down there. Maybe that’ll be the plan one day. All right. Well, your name again, sir? John Kordak. John Kordak. All right. Well, we look forward to seeing ah you out there. I’m at Catalina all the time, but I’m in Big Geiger Cove. So if you ever want to cruise by, I would love to  let you anchor up and hang out. Good. Good. I’d love it. Appreciate your work, All right. And the Santa Barbara Islands. I’m interested in that. ah

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I would need to learn more and I would need to be inspired by somebody who’s out there doing it. So if you ever need a crew or something that, you know, you’re careful what you ask for, we’ll drag you there.  I want to be dragged out there because I want to. want to. Yeah. Well, it’s a really magical place. I mean, it’s like there’s no place on world like my wife’s like, why is anybody going to Catalina or to Hawaii? Look where we are. You know, it’s all right here. Or they’re going to Catalina because Hawaii is so far.  That’s where I’ve just been going. But I do. I’m excited about venturing out. It just feels like a big jump,  especially if it’s, know,

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I don’t know. Maybe we’ll go boat buddies or something like that. Right. Create a little regatta out there. Yeah. Not regatta. Cruise. Regatta’s close enough. I’ll call it a regatta. All right. Two boats make Well, I’m just throwing this out there to help me get  myself more cannibal for doing the stuff that I want. And all these boats are super inspiring. So I’m glad you got your hands on a winner here. Well, thank you. I appreciate you. All right. We’ll talk to you soon, buddy. Thanks. Thank you.

09:25

This is my dad, Dick McNish. He’s the owner  and caretaker of Cheerio II since 1980. He’s also known for starting a race  out of  Channel Islands Harbor called the, it was originally the Pacific Corinthian Classic. It started in 1978.  After it been going for 20 years, it became the McNish Classic. So this year will be the  48th  running of the McNish Classic.

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Also the boat briefly owned, was owned by Errol Flynn like in 1937 which I didn’t believe for like 30 years and there finally was a photo of him at the helm. Documentation? Yeah documentation and so we brought it down on Thursday from Channel Islands.

10:16

When my dad was younger, in his late 80s and into 90 years old, they were doing Ensenada races on it. Nice. And they won their class twice.  Impressive. the Ensenada race. Well, Dick, it’s great to meet you. Say hi to a whole bunch of sailors out there. Thank you. Thank you for coming down. Yeah. You know, this show is all about stories and Hollywood, and you’ve had this boat for so long. Is there a certain story that sticks out that’s memorable, a fun one to share about the boat?

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A time on the boat, one of your many adventures. How many times did we go up for master mariners? m

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two times, right? I think there’s two or three times. Yeah. Well, what a legend to hold onto this boat for so long. Now, why is it that is wood is so special? We know it’s a lot of work, but why do you love your wood boat? Well, it’s part of history where we look around us and you can see fiberglass boats and they don’t.

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require as much. They do not require as much work at all. Right. But it’s okay to put work into something. That’s part of the deal, right? Right. Owning a boat, you got to put some work into it so that she treats you well. Yeah, and the feel of it underway is different often. Instead of a ping pong ball, that’s more of a sailing on a piece of…

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One has to admit he did have a fiberglass boat for a while, which he also liked. We no hate. We don’t hate against it. We had an Excalibur 26. Okay. So his first boat, what was the first boat you had? That was dragon. Yeah, we had a dragon bought it in 1963 for a thousand dollars from his boss. Had that for about five years. I don’t know. There were a couple of boats and then we ended up with the Excalibur.

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And then from the Excalibur, had a modified  H28. And that was why he was racing that.  But that was why he started the McNish Classic, because we weren’t really succeeding with our handicap against the fiberglass boats in the beer can races.  And then he got Cheerio. Quite the racer, sir. So there’s a lot of racers who listen.  With your age and wisdom, do you have one tip,  one special magic tip?

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that helps you succeed  as a racer. Yeah. What’s your tip? Good crew?  Well, the crew is my son.  And tell them you’re handicap also.  Oh, yeah,  I’m a handicap.  And we have my sister.  She’s in San Francisco.  But there no seasons.

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I don’t know if  there’s something  about the wooden boat. There’s definitely something about the wooden boat. Your wooden boat is very sexy. Now you said  it sails nicely. How fast do get that thing going?  How fast do you go when  the spinnaker and the mizzen spinnaker are up? oh Usually about  eight knots.  Eight or nine knots? It feels like eight or nine hundred miles an hour when you’re on a piece of wood like that. Yeah. Yeah.

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Eight knots. But it’s not about the speed, it’s about the whole process and everything. Yeah, no, mean eight knots on that boat feels Feels very fast, yeah. And I mean, among many boats that I’m familiar with, eight knots is fine. Oh, for sure. Well, Dick, we appreciate you hanging out and coming out today. There’s a lot of great boats, a lot of antiques, and yours is probably one of my favorite, if not my favorite sailboat. So I’m going to vote for you for the best show choice. How does that sound?

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Got one more vote. in show. Yeah, I have a feeling she may be the oldest vote here in the show. Really? Well, 1931. she’s in very good shape. My dad spent a modest amount of money in the 90s rebuilding her.

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So she’s very solid. OK. You know, but you know, there are lots of parts of her that are from 1931. So she’s a 1931 boat. Yeah. And I don’t think there’s anything else older here. Nice. And to hang on to her from 1980, that’s when I was born. Basically, that boat is the rendition of me back in time. There you go. How many people does it take to sail her efficiently or like can you single handle that thing? No. My dad, for for pleasure, like in his 80s, he was

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Just him and Kevin Dickman, the two of you would take the boat out, know, pull up the sails, go out for a sail, reach out towards Anacapa, come back. you guys ever go to Catalina, ever hang out locally there, or is just more of a sailor racer? No, Catalina some, Santa Cruz Island, and then the boat’s been down to the Sea of Cortez twice. Okay. And then one year he trailer it up to the Pacific Northwest.

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because my sister has a 65 foot schooner  in Port Townsend.  And so we were sailing with them in the San Juan Islands  and then up to Desolation Sound and Princess Louisa Inlet. So that was all fun. Wow. And then we sailed the boat. We did sail the boat down  and got in uh southerly and had to got all wet and had to put in in Oregon. um But we got the boat back.  Yeah. Nice. So yeah, I mean, the boat has been used.

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you know, over its 45 years, it’s had a lot of use. Yeah. Well, it looks like it boats are meant to be used. You can’t be in the harbor too long. You got to get out there on the open ocean. yeah. All right, Dick. Well, thank you so much. It’s a beautiful boat. I hope it wins best in show. Even if it doesn’t, you’ve still got it. I doubt that we were here and we’ve been seen. Yeah. Well, I’m glad you’re here. You’re in a good spot with good crew and

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You know, make sure you keep the Latitude  38s coming delivered to your house because that’s all kinds of good stuff. We’re going to bring sailing to you. Yeah. All right. Thanks, Dick.  Nice to meet you. Thank you. All right.

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I’m actually was sent here because I was talking to somebody that like you got to check out this Missile 102 and I’m like  I’ve got to check it out. So people are talking about you. I know you’re talking about the judges coming but people are already talking about you. So introduce yourself and tell us about this beautiful wooden piece of work behind me. I’m Rusty Reyes and I’ve owned  Missile 102 since 2010. OK. uh She was originally commissioned  at Stockton at Stevens Brothers in 1956.

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and made her way down here to Orange County.  And this is the first time she’s been back in 65 years.  She used to be tied up on Bayshore right next to John Wayne’s house uh in Bayshore. And then her owner, Paul Kalmanovitz, who was kind of the Howard user of owned eight big breweries. He bought Falstaff and Lucky Lager, moved up to San Francisco, took the boat with him and used it to entertain his friends and guests and business associates then.

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Was it always Missile 102? Except for two years. was Carpet DM for two years. Oh, it’s great. A couple lawyers lived on it and changed the name and then when they sold it…

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it went back to Miss 102. took 100… I said Missle. Miss. I just think I thought Missle. No, it’s not Missle. Okay. Miss 102, a little softer. Miss 102. Well, I misspoke on that Missle, but she kind of looks like a Missle. Yeah, little bit. Yeah, low slung. But anyway, it took 102 steps to make the beer. Paul Kalmanovitz bought Pabst Blue Ribbon. Okay. So… Award winning. Love it. PBR, their most popular beer at that time was Brew 102. And in 1953…

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They did a beauty contest and five LA  area models competed for the title of Miss 102. ah And Lois Franklin was,  I think, the winner and she was Miss 102. We have a picture of her in the boat. Nice.  Well, shall we go step onto the boat? you want to do? Yeah, let’s do a little tour. All right. We got it.  Now, I love this ramp. Is there a specific call of it? All these boats have it. It’s just a…  It’s a gangway. Gangway. Yeah, they call it a gangway. All right.

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Hopping on the gateway a treacherous. Yeah, that’s okay. I’m under your equipment. Alright, hang on.

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Oh, I like that gangway. That’s nice.

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Look at all these people on your boat. like it. So come on down. All right. Start down here. No people. No people. Good. All right. So we’re walking kind of, this is kind of like a little circular, circular walk down. This is a picture. It is somebody looking at a model of your boat. It’s Dick Stevens. It’s the designer and architect, the Marine architect and son of the founder of Stevens Brothers. And he said this was the most beautiful Stevens on the water.

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and he and his family  had a model made of this boat and presented it to the Hagen Museum in Stockton, who is the repository of all the archives of Stephen’s boats.  Wow, that is beautiful. It is really a beautiful boat. I look at this thing. He looks so happy. And he’s 100 years old there. Oh, that’s rad. uh Six months before he died. And he’s a dear friend of mine.  And he reminds me of  a kid on Christmas morning opening up his presents when he looks at that boat.

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That’s what I think. That’s magical. I love that. And then  she was featured.  Oh, just spin around the other way. Francis Yacht Club. Two spin that way. you go. day on the bay.  Oh, that’s beautiful. Yeah. So we’re looking at a big opening day on the bay poster and you are featured there right front and center. Right front and center. And then meet Lois Franklin. Oh, wow. Lois Franklin was Miss 102  and  the Pabst  Brew Ribbon  Beer Company was always, they were Milwaukee based and then.

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you know, call man of its head Meyer Brewing, where they produced Brew 102. And when they moved out here, they decided to market beer to the growing African American community. A lot of southerners, African Americans from the south were moving to California, taking advantage of jobs in the aerospace industry and others. And Ezra Charles, the boxer, was our spokesperson. Larry Doby, the Jackie Robinson of the American League.

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was one of their other spokespersons and they had this beauty contest between five LA area models and meet Miss 102, Lois Franklin.  She’s beautiful, that is awesome. There’s so much history that’s happening here.

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We got tight quarters, but it’s uh not tight for a big boat here. All right, we’re going. Is this the aft cabin? is the master. The master, yes. This is the master. Vertical wood slots everywhere. mean, just wood everywhere. It’s beautiful. Lots of wood. This is like owning a piece of antique furniture you keep outside. All  right, so now we’re headed  to the aft.  Watch your head. uh Oh, this is the cockpit. Yeah, this is classy. This is like the lower cockpit. place to sit. Yeah, definitely.

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Oh, this is good. Is that a wooden circle cover for a wooden window? Yeah, yeah it is. It just opens up.  Alright, let’s take a little selfie here. We got this. This is good. So this is like right on the stern.  And  when she’s under power, is this just like, what is she? It’s a great place to sit. Yeah. Get some sun.  We brought her down from San Francisco.

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We left uh under the Golden Gate at first light.  People are taking photos of us. You’re famous on your own boat here. uh We arrived here in Newport on Monday. We straight on through. We stopped at Santa Cruz the first night,  visited my sister’s there, and  then went to Morro Bay.

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stayed there and then Santa Barbara at dinner in Santa Barbara off the boat. do cruise out on this thing? 12 knots. And it ran like a sewing machine. It really gave me a sense that we could have gone to Costa Rica if we wanted to. You probably can’t. 1200 gallons of fuel. Any good crazy stories you haven’t told anybody? You know, I mean, it’s just it was really pleasurable. We were about a mile and a half to four miles offshore. Good weather, lots of whales.

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dolphins and sea life. We had an engineer mechanic on board just in case something went wrong. The only thing that went wrong the whole time was he had to fix the stove, which is important. You know,  I was the cook. uh We had a doctor on board  and he’s a friend of ours. you guys are fully set. There were seven of us, yeah. Two skippers. Awesome. And we made the trip.  It was,  you know, fun but uneventful. Yeah.

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That’s cool. We got down here. Any other? Actually, I say it took us four days. actually took us.

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A year and four days because we tried to come last year. Oh, no. We couldn’t find a weather window. You know, this is an old girl. Yeah. She’s pushing 70 years old and, you don’t want to subject her to any conditions or getting damaged or so. know, we don’t take any chances that way. We finally got a weather window last Friday and out the Golden Gate and down here. Perfect. Boom. Time for the show. All right. Well, I know you’re a fan of Latitude 30 of the magazine. Anything you want to say to the Latitude 30 nation?

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No, thanks for all the work you do in promoting boating. And I’ve been a long time reader and I appreciate the information that the Latitude 38 dispenses. Thank you. Nice. Thank you very much. Thank you. Well, thank you for being on the digital airwaves now. boating. Yeah. All right. We’ll tell people who are in a podcast to come check out the Good Jives podcast and they’ll get to hear from all kinds of interesting folk like you. Thanks again, buddy. Thank you.

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Well, we’re here. just stepped on this cute little boat. Would you mind saying hi, introducing yourself? Hi, I’m Ron Geisman. This is a Virtue class boat. They’re 25 feet, 3 inches. 25, I’ve got a 34. This feels like a lot of boat for that small of a foot. Yeah, it sails more like a 40 footer. And it’s built more like a 40 footer than a 25 footer. It’s 7 eighths inch deep planks. they’re all blue.

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copper riveted to I-Pole frames that are only six and a quarter inches apart. So it’s a very strong boat. Now, how long have you had the boat? 16 years. Oh my gosh. So you’ve had this for a while. You’ve got some blood, sweat and tears into it. A lot of blood. A lot of blood. So this is all about stories. have some. Tell us a good story from this boat. I don’t know what it could take many forms, but I’m sure it’s 16 years. You’ve got a lot of time on our sail. I just spent

26:09

Most recently, two months ago, we hauled out for a month in Oceanside at the Oceanside Marine Center. And they have some real expertise with wood boats, and they’re one of the few places that let you still work on your own boat. And it had reached the point where we were down to almost bare wood below the water line. And so I was a little worried at what I was going to see. In point of fact,

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Every single bung in the boat covering up these copper rivets, every single one was in place and perfect. None were raised, none were popped. It was just as good as the day the thing was built 58 years ago, which is, I guess, a testimony to the builder. So I was enormously impressed by how much that this boat has  managed to weather. And it’s really been a remarkably

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well-built boat with very few exceptions.  Now where do you sail or just here locally day sailing? Do you go to Catalina? you go to…  You know, it’s a local boat. Yeah. You know, it’s based in Dana Point Harbor and uh go to Oceanside, come up here. Yeah. Go to Catalina. That’s about it. Yeah. I’m kind of tied close to home for reasons.  So I don’t get very far with it. This is a… Well, this is a cute…

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cute little cockpit and inside looks beautiful with the white and  the contrast of the white and the teak. Yeah.  This boat  is one of about 300 built. They mostly follow  the same look and feel. oh The original naval architect, Lawrence Giles in England, was very adamant about how his boats were built. He was very particular and he would remove a builder’s license if he felt like they were shortchanging the boat.

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So this particular boat was built in Hong Kong by a British run yard and it’s still got the original British fittings on it. This is 58 years old and it looks as good as the day it was built. Yeah, I feel like I could look at it and use it as a mirror. Yeah, super shiny. Everything was absolutely first class when they built it. think Yachting magazine did a review of them when they first came out and called it a gold plater, a mini gold plater.

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It does have some weak points, but  other than that,  it’s really been a great boat.  Well,  super great. I appreciate you taking the time before you break for lunch. Any final words for just thoughts on owning a wooden boat here at the Wooden Boat Festival? Be committed to doing the work it’ll take to maintain it  and  appreciate the fact that  in maintaining the boat, you should be able to enjoy that process as part of the ownership, certainly.

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And don’t buy a wood boat if you’re  willing to do the work.  I love it. All right. Thank you again, sir. You could have a really large bank account. That would work. All right. Thank you, Enjoy.

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Alright, look who I’ve run into, our old friend Stephen. How are you doing, sir? Ryan, it’s so good to be back with you and the folks at Latitude 38. Well,  we’re having fun. We’re talking with boat owners.  We are schmoozing with wood. We’re talking about  everything from upkeep to traditions to stories to all kinds of things. And the sun is out. People are having a wonderful time. We just finished up with the lecture by Sherry Flummerfelt of the Western Flyer.  I gotta tell you, people were captivated by her talking about the history of the boat.

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and the cruise that they just completed to the Sea of Cortez. Yes, I actually caught a little bit of that. It was pretty good. Yeah. I’ve just got a bit of everything and I’ve got my Pacifico and I’m going to talk to another guest from the show that I ran into from another episode. So it all comes full circle. Wonderful. And you know what? If you’re still around two thirty, come and see one of the West Coast  only sea shanty singers who’s to be performing live. Sweet. All right. Come here. We can sing along. Wait, wait, we have to have a shanty.

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Oh, you’re just talking about singing now? No, no, he’s going to provide a shanty. Oh, I you were trying to along. I thought you’re trying to freestyle some shanties. No, no, no, I’m not going to freestyle with you here. Yeah. OK. All right. Next time. Enjoy. All right. Thanks, buddy. Hey, listeners. This episode of Good Jibes is brought to you by our friends at Ocean Planet Energy, founded by two-time solo circumnavigator Bruce Schwab and later joined by Nigel Calder. Ocean Planet Energy delivers optimized power systems designed for serious offshore cruisers and racers.

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Learn more at OceanPlanetEnergy.com.  They’re good guys and would love to know you heard this on the Latitude 38 Good Jibes podcast.  I’ve run into an old friend here who’s  also a guest on the Good Jives podcast. Say hello. Hello, I’m Jennifer Keel with 70 Degrees. And we love your episode. And I have been talking more with my mom, learned about my sailing history, and seen all these wooden boats and stuff. But  I rolled up and you’re talking with somebody who is.

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Very electric. And I want you to just continue a little conversation as we’re looking at a boat. And you’re now officially a podcast host, co-host guest. Ready? Oh, fantastic. Hi, my name is Victor DeMarquette. I’m here with the beautiful Jennifer. that like a keel? Wow. How did that work? So we’re in of our boat, Chevala right here. 1954 boat. It’s custom designed, one design here in Newport Beach. So, yeah, this is the best bay boat we have in Newport Beach right now.

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Way outweighs a Duffy Duffield by far. Way up, but this is our bay launch right here. It’s amazing craft and we’re here at this annual tradition at the Babway Yacht Club and we are just delighted to tell more stories, it’s all about Steinbeck today. Western Flyer is just here, right? There’s nothing better than a sailor with stories. We’re celebrating that today. Amen on that. Thanks for having us. It’s great day. I really don’t have a lot of stories.

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This gentleman has stories. He’s a class. He’s  stories. We’ve stopped someone else here. How are you sweetheart? Come on, she’s got stories. Jennifer Zuma. Remember me?

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uh This gentleman is the top docent at the Balboa Island Museum  Jerry is a one-of-a-kind he has all the best stories in town you have to visit with him  and hear how the little island behind us  was dragged  How do you know that? do you know that to be true? uh Jimmy Cagney won Bay Island

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in a poker game in the  30s.  And  at that time, there was only one house on the island and it was a small castle.  We’re not sure who the other players at the poker table were. But I got a brag on  Jennifer here. She was my boss.  And  as my boss, she was awfully nice to me.  Didn’t treat me like an old dumb guy. She she kind of made me into a

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semi-celebrity and stuffed the ballot boxes for Docent of the Year  at the Babel Island Museum  and they’ve never replaced me so I am still  about eight years later the reigning  Docent of the Year and I get to ride in the parade in Babel Island parade every year. Cheers to that!  30 years of adventure from what I hear. So when when I was a docent  I would

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key people uh for a long time, say, you know, other people go in the museum, they’re in and out in five minutes. How do you  get them to uh stay so long? And I said, I ask questions about them. And they, everyone loves to talk about themselves. Not me, but a lot of other people do.  And  when it comes to  telling about things in the museum, I never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

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So embellishment is one of my passions. John Wayne, I went on his boat at one time,  it was a strip poker, no, I shouldn’t tell that story. Oh God.  That didn’t happen.  Yeah,  is the truth is stranger than fiction sometimes. a poker game when the island was won. Is that really a strip poker game too? I know.

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Fact check, fact check, fact check.  All right, well, any advice to sailors out there from your wisdom, something to set themselves with or a joke? Always go with the wind. Yes, nice. Go where the wind blows. That’s the only thing we can do.  This is what happens at in-person events where people connect with people. Boats,  people. I’ve got a beer. That’s a triple B.  And I’m looking at wood everywhere.

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There’s some sort of music happening in the background. The docks are full of people. I’m looking at a 42 foot Grand Banks called Good News. There’s another Chris Craft that is just super ninja with its black hole, nice mahogany and then white compliment. People are cruising. All right, I’m gonna wait until Jennifer finishes up with her conversation of those who she pulled in and then we’ll chat with her and then we’ll see what she’s up to.

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We don’t get a sweet treat.  It’s only for the owners of the boats, apparently. Yep, that’s what life is.  Own it. Oh wait, but…  see that? Thank you! Look at that, we got a sweet treat after We did it after all. Cheers, Victor!  We just totally rigged the system.  Cheers with chocolate.  Chocolat. Oh, Chocolat. Cheers. Chocolat. It’s a mackerel.  All right, Jennifer, well, how is the show going for you? Oh, it’s amazing. I mean, this tradition holds so many great…

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John Steinbeck moments. The Western Flyer is worth a visit alone, but there are 30 other vessels that are compelling. I’m just amazed by the craft, the curiosity, and the tradition of this show. Jennifer, if you had to choose one of these 30 boats to go home with, what would be your pick? I am choosing the Wild Goose because John Wayne knows best. And we are here in Newport Beach, California. That’s a big boat. Yeah. We have to get Burt Minshaw.

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the captain on board who’s his original captain. really? Call him up! Call That gentleman is one of a kind and truly a gentleman and has the best stories about poker games aboard and the rat pack of the century of why John Wayne and his friends were the coolest people ever. Literally legends aboard that vessel. I feel the history in the air just with all these wood boats that

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put a little bit of work into maintaining over the years and some of them are just so old.  As a historian and an archivist, how do you feel looking at these things, knowing all the salty seas and tales that we might not hear? I look at the Chris Craft  and the Baboa Yacht Club, which are iconic  and symbiotic. This  community was built for this. is literally why we dock here. It’s this tradition of  heritage and history and beauty and escape.

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LA and Orange County have always been neighbors, but Newport Beach rocks. We always wanted to come here to escape the craziness of life. Sometimes you just have to get on some water and breathe a little easier and live a little. That’s what this community has always been with the red car and the wooden boats. Like you get away for the weekend and then a lot of people moved here. So that’s how it happened in the 50s. It’s all homegrown. It’s all real. All right. Well,

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I’ve just had my fill. I’ve been on all kinds of these things. It’s amazing how the sailboats, they are kind of like boat yoga to get in and out of these old little ones. I kind of popped my knee on that last little one. But it’s just so fun to see how. Advocates in the house. We’re doing a little podcast for Good Jives. know Latitude 38 as a magazine? Yeah. So we have a podcast called Good Jives. You want to interview him for a second?

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Alright, here you go. I’m gonna give you the microphone and you and Jennifer can do it and I’ll trail behind. Okay. So I see you wearing a Western hydraulic, hydro-man. Hydrodynamics. It’s a mouthful of research. And obviously this is all anchored in the Steinbeck fashion of red brickets and Monterey. tell us more about your craft and why this tradition matters to you today. So basically. Which one’s yours? It’s like 30 feet away. Let’s go check it I just, I just, just, uh.

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acquired it. A lot of history actually. right. Boating is my passion and I lose a lot of money boating. I my name is Evan. All right, Evan. And I love to restore vintage boats. And a lot of people think it’s my business and I’ve never made $1 off a boat. And I just I just love to restore them. I love the history. And I cherish all the wooden boats I have. never sell them.

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And I keep the history is a really big importance to me  to  signify. And this is probably one of the most special ones I have out of my collection.  And it’s actually I’ve had it for about a year. Didn’t run for 20 years.  I literally got it running two days ago. Yes. Perfect for this event. Yeah, it is.  And it’s actually  a 1944 Mandela  and it’s a three time Catalina ski race winner.

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in 1962, three and four. The most famous offshore racer, this was his personal boat, Bob Nordskag, who’s kind of a Southern California. I guess I didn’t even know who he was until I found this boat. And I spent like seven months talking to his  family to convince me to buy the boat, promising that I would never  sell it and I’ll restore it and share some history. And this is it right here. It’s called Whimsy.  And it’s a all mahogany glassed over.

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and it goes 70 miles an hour. And I kept all the original photos and I made a little art wall. Oh my gosh, see the art wall. all the history. And there’s some silver down there. Yeah, those are the trophies from the first Canadian ski race. Oh my He’s first place, second place. So how big is this thing? It’s sexy. 19 feet. 19 feet. Yes. Oh my God. And tell me, tell me about this ski. Is that a ski scurfer? Is that an original? I’ve been telling people that was a ski that won it, but it’s kind of a joke and people are actually believing me.

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And the boat actually has a hydrofoil and levitates which is like next level in 1960. Yeah, yeah, you can see it right here There’s a there’s a hydrofoil under it, which is 1960 was like next level no one ever did that ever and there’s a lot shit there’s a lot of controversy about the builder of this boat because Everyone is claiming, you know Duffy built Duffy boats but if you see in this advertisement that I think this guy

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built the Duffy electric boat because in this photo he’s advertising it in the 70s and then you look in his shop that is the original Duffy boat. Okay so describe what we’re looking at here this is like a three feet by eight foot sort of big poster board that you have all these antiques and like winning championships and photos and handwritten letters and stuff. When I yeah so this is like the checklist from the when they were racing and you can see the date 10 15 63 and this is their whole checklist I guess.

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This came with the boat when I bought it. And about five in the morning, I actually built this. This wall. I just put this together at five in the morning because I didn’t know I would show everyone. So there’s like actual sketches and drawings. Is this designing the This is designing where the chairs should be for racing and how the cavitations should be. And what do you know about this foil? Because this is crazy that this was an original foil. Like actually, I thought it was a way more recent thing.

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No, this is uh this is 1954. we’re looking at this sexy boat, which is to the to the starboard of me. And it’s literally hydrofoiling out. Some do just look like a badass. It’s like a very beginning of hydrofoil. And what they did is when the boat hit 60 miles an hour, then the boat would levitate a little bit to get a more. You’ve got to get up  to 60 to kick these things in. Do you have control? Or is it just it just gives you a better advantage so you’re not slapping the waves as hard. Right. So the boat really

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rides really rough until you hit about 60. Oh my God. Once you hit 60, it’s extremely smooth and everything changes. And the top speed of it was 79 miles an hour. Wow. Yep. And this is from what’s it? What was it built in? This is built in 1944. Holy moly. Yep. So right here it says they messed up, but this is the 1944 Mandela. And I personally think that when are we going to go skiing Marine Stadium? I’m going tomorrow morning. You want to go actually right here? This picture actually

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There’s a picture in Marine Stadium of them testing it. Yeah. So that’s Long Beach. No shit. That’s Long Beach right there. And then here’s Whimsy, the actual boat right here. And I have a photo of this boat five feet in the air  racing with a skier. Yeah. And then here are like the silver trophies that came with them. Yes. And then here’s some of his like paper drawings, you know, of his engineering of the seat. And then he is actually the first person, if you look in the back.  So there’s a lever in the back that

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Right here, there’s a lever. So when they’re racing, the seat’s all the way back and there’s a cavitation plate. There’s a cavitation plate in the back. So when they’re racing, they had the best advantage to not porpoise and just go as fast as possible with this lever. It’s hard to see. You can actually get in the boat and you’ll see even deeper. It is the loudest boat you’ve ever heard in your life, dude. I heard it earlier. is deafening loud, yes.  Should we fire it up? We could.

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When Goose leaves in a minute. All so what do you do now that you have it running? Are we gonna go skiing? Have you taken a skiing yet? this is my second day running it. It took me about three months to fix everything. Did you all the engine work as well? Yeah, so basically, you know, I launch it and then it breaks. I take it back out of the water and I fix that part and that happened about 15 times. Awesome.

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process of elimination, And I’d to show you my other boat down there that even has a better story. Oh yeah? Oh yeah. Should we go? Sure. All right.

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My uncle used to do uh work on the boats.  And so he would do the sanding and varnishing and all that. Yeah. And one day he drank a gallon of the varnish. No. Well, unfortunately, he died three days later, but he had a really nice finish. Yes, that was a good one. I love it.

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All right, so we’re back on another boat. This is definitely not a wooden boat. Talk to us about this boat. So this is 2021 boat, center council. They made 13 of these in ever. It was pretty much a pandemic boat. And once the pandemic hit, they kind of shut down shop and never made. This is the last one ever made. Oh, OK. Yeah. Like they like not your pandemic boat, but like during the pandemic, they just stopped. It was for sale brand new and a guy in Newport Beach.

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was high on drugs, walked on the dock and hit the start button on a brand new yacht and started the yacht and just gunned it in gear. I saw that on social media. Is this the one that like so he stole the yacht? OK, yes. And  he hit about five boats. OK. And this boat was brand new for sale. And this was the first one to get hit. And the 60 foot yacht ran this boat over.  Oh, my God. Completely over the front.

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I’ve seen this. Yes, everyone has had 10 million views. anyways,  insurance cleaned them out and I went to an insurance auction and I bought the boat from an insurance auction and I cut the whole front of the boat off and rebuilt it myself.  Let’s go up there. me see. I’m on a podcast. I see my lawyer. Hold on, dude. Let’s get the lawyer. You can’t see it because I. How big is this thing? It’s a 45. 45. This is a big boat. Yeah. What’s up, lawyer?

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We’re here with good jobs. I just want to make sure I say the right things. Yeah, he needs… He’s my lawyer. I just got him this dinghy. He’s a lemon law lawyer, so he might lemon it. I’m not sure. Did he help you out with this transaction? He helped me out with this transaction, yes. So this was… you just… this was done. He just redid this whole front. I cut the whole front end off. So you can actually see right here from… if you were standing here, you’d be dead. Yeah. Literally, the 64 yacht went over the boat. Right here over. And there was… you can… in the video, that’s the first boat to get hit.

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So it ran over this boat and then it hit the sailboat and the lady was in the sailboat. You can see on the video. And anyways, it went to an auction and I bought it at the auction and came with a great story. Did you know at the time? Obviously, you know, I, in fact, at the time I had to sell every single boat I owned, every single toy I owned because I couldn’t finance it. I had to pay cash for it. So I literally fire sailed every item. I sold everything about my wife and kid.

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Pretty much, And you bought this thing with the nose chopped off? No, it didn’t. I chopped the nose off. Oh, it was already smashed. Yeah, I didn’t know I was going to own it. I had no idea. This guy hit it and then it went for auction and I was like, oh my God, this is the best boat ever. You were in the process of buying when it got hit or you just bought it on auction afterwards? hit the boat. Yes. And I heard about it in Newport. Yep. And then I saw it up for auction from the insurance company and

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Then I bought it and I won the auction. Nice. Yes. And I actually fixed it in 36 days. That’s record time. Yes. But it gets better. three months after I bought it, actually, all the damaged part, I wrapped with white duct tape and I cruised around the harbor all summer with it completely damaged and barely anyone knew because the white duct tape matched it. Is that your boat? That is my boat. Yes. Yeah, that’s loud as fuck. Yes.

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That was my boat. Awesome. Well, you know what? From Catalina Ski Races in a sexy boat from the 40s to 2022 that was attacked by another boat with someone on drugs and you ended up replacing. This is sick. Yes. And when a wide open throttle, it costs $16 a minute to operate this. $16 a minute. And if a girl says, hey, I have to go pee, can you slow it down? It’s for me to go.

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from idle to on plane cost me $70. So if you have to go pee, we have to go fast. How big of a gas tank you got? How much fuel you It cost $6,000 to fill it up. OK. And then you’ve got four big old monsters on the back. What are those? I four monsters and I have a diesel, a sea keeper. And it is this boat is super heavy. Yeah. A comparable boat, this size center console, this weighs 15,000 pounds more. Wow. Yes. Because it’s three quarter inch tall. Where’s the sail? What?

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The sale? I’m just kidding. Oh no, no sale. Nope, nope, nope.  All right. Well, thanks for the tour. No problem.

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Alright, quite the day here at the Wooden Boat Show.  I’m doing another final loop as we cruise along.  Met some interesting characters,  met some salty dogs, met some folks with some big boats,  with some small boats, a lot of wooden boats.  Ah, some music coming off of boats.  We got families cruising around. We got little kids, hey there! We got Grand Banks.  We got  multiple sizes of Grand Banks.

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We’ve got sailboats, got all kinds of stuff.

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So I was told we need to talk with you, sir. How are you doing? I’m doing fine. And tell us a little bit about yourself. It looks like you’re strapped there with a camera. Well, that’s what I do. I’m a photographer all my life. And do you specialize in boats or have you done a lot of boats? Mostly boats now, classic yachts. I shoot for One Boat magazine and a bunch of articles for them. Shoot for cars, shoot for Shelby. So I do a little bit of everything. Nice. Do you know about Latitude 38? I sure do.

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Yeah, well, we are the Good Jibes podcast by Latitude 38. I’ll be darned. I’m sure we have some of your photos made it in the years. OK, way back in the days. Yeah. Awesome. I said a lot of stuff up to Richard. Yeah. He’s running the place. Yeah. Yeah. Well, any any message to the Latitude 38 nation over there or any tips for us when we’re taking pictures of our boats? Take the action stuff. You have to make sure you got the right gear. Long lenses are great. Yeah. tight. I like do more of the people shots.

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Okay, not just the boats but people on the boats or just boats action the guys in action. Okay. Yeah tacking jibing Yeah, center to marks get them come around. But are you in are you in boats taking pictures on the boats? Yes. Okay. Yeah, sometimes sometimes I sometimes on the committee boats sometimes on a state boat. Yeah, nice Well, somebody wants to hire you to come out and take pictures of the boat. How do they find you? My website Steve Jost photography comm. All right. Well, there you go. Well good little plug and thank you to your friend here. Yep. Glad to do it

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All right. He’s been my photographer to go to for 35 years. So how does that work? You’re just like, I’m going to go sailing and you bring him out with you or he comes in a separate boat? all kinds of projects together. Our most recent is a huge book on windward passage available on Amazon. OK, well, you know, that sounds like a whole episode in itself. Would you be interested in jumping on your computer sometime and doing a podcast? Good jives about this crazy project? Sure. Glad to. OK. Yeah, that sounds cool.

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you can go back down on the boat and you can look at that book. I saw the book. That’s your book? Yeah, that’s And then you took the photos? He did the photos,  I did the design, and our friend Randy Pfeffer did the writing. OK, well, I have your email. I’m going to reach out. We should set up a time. Maybe we it in person so we can look at the book at the same time. Who knows? Glad to do it. All right, I’ll let you guys go get some more good photos out there, sir. Nice to meet you. All right, nice to meet you, too.

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All right, well, I’ve got Jennifer here again. We’ve been having fun and  we’re about ready to head home. So Jennifer, any three reflections on the day? How was it for you? I think that the Western Flyer was worth every moment.  Oh, look at we’re by.

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with the scientific perspective of the sea. There’s nothing better than looking through the purview of time and space and science. So what a joy to have her here. Now, you read the book? Because I haven’t. I’m going to do it after this. of Cortez. I think that  it just tells you the story of their relationship as friends and someone who is gifted with words and working with advocates like Monterey would not be the same without these two guys just hanging out together, capturing what they loved, early sea exploration.

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We still have yet to discover its depths  its  Intrinsic like beauty like there’s so much that we know about the sea  and um Space and like there’s more about space that we know than the sea right now, which is weird to me Yeah, we have to be like literally curious Yeah, to be to be so front-edge that long ago and I remember I sitting next to you when they were doing their presentation  and when she read that passage about Just the relationship between the boat

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and humans and how it’s this inanimate object that you have a relationship with. And I was fascinated by that. So I’m excited to read this book.  one of those gems that it tells time and place in a way that we all should relate to it. Like go visit this book. Steinbeck wanted you to read it personally,  That is it. That is it. You heard that here. Steinbeck is ready.  So if you are inspired to learn more about this crazy journey in this boat that everybody’s doing, pick up the book. It’s a good historical piece. Very much so.

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Alright, well I might have, I might take some of that and use that in my next Latitude 38 article as we share about what’s happening down here in SoCal and find the words that really sum up the feeling and vibe of what it is today which is there’s this magical connection between humans and these inanimate, inanimate, what was it? Like, you were saying they’re not human, like a horse and an amazing dog have these great relationships. A boat is not alive, but it has. the spirit and it’s intergenerational.

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It connects us  and it is the spirit of that, the sea that continues the storytelling within all of us.  And the wood in the sea and the natural elements and just sort of the step back in history here.  Well, we’re stepping back in history, but we’re also looking for the rest of  the rest of everything that we have. So it’s fun to build off this. And here we go. Here’s Stephen right here. We’re shutting it down. Final words, Stephen, as we’re heading out of here for the day. Couldn’t have been a better day. Beautiful boats, beautiful people, classic boats, classy people.

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And here comes the Western Flyer in from her cruise.  right. Picture perfect. Picture perfect. All right. Well, there you have it from from Latitude 38’s Good Jibes on the scene.  Jennifer, time to go home. That’s right. Let’s enjoy. All right.  Thank you, Ryan!  And just like that, back in the car where I started throwing my skateboard into the car  and going to  sail home.  Hopefully you enjoyed this podcast. Make sure to tell your friends about Good Jibes,  especially those who read Latitude 38, because I find a lot of people still don’t know.

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that we have a podcast.  So find us, follow us online, share, tag, be friendly, and we will see you next time. And thanks again to OceanPlanetEnergy.com for sponsoring this latest episode of Good Jibes!