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Episode #197: 2025 Scuba Show, Long Beach, CA — Part 1

By Monica Grant | June 24, 2025

This week we sail to the 2025 Scuba Show held on May 31 – June 1 at Long Beach, CA. Go behind-the-scenes with Good Jibes host Ryan Foland for this diving event of the year. In this Part 1, you’ll meet professional mermaids, go diving with sharks, learn about the new style of sun suits, meet a water sports legend, and discover all the futuristic gadgets and gear to take your adventures at sea to the next level.

 

Here’s a small sample of what you’ll hear in this episode:

  • Interviewing professional mermaids
  • Learning about an underwater scooter
  • The true meaning of Bahama
  • Can all ages dive with sharks?
  • What’s coming up in the diving industry?

Learn more at ScubaShow.com and connect with Ryan at Ryan.Online

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Check out the episode and show notes below for much more detail.

Show Notes

  • Part 1: Scuba Show with Host Ryan Foland & Friends
    • [0:17] Welcome to Good Jibes with Latitude 38
    • [2:03] Meeting with professional mermaids
    • [6:26] Are mermaids immortal?
    • [8:27] Looking at the posters and t-shirts
    • [10:09] Interview with Harrison Jackson
    • [12:17] Interview with Neal Watson, Bimini Scuba Center
    • [14:19] Why aren’t more sailors also scuba divers?
    • [15:06] Can all ages dive with sharks?
    • [18:42] Don’t hit the sandbars
    • [20:47] We could do an underwater podcast
    • [21:56]  If you’d like to sponsor Good Jibes, email [email protected] 
    • Scuba Show Interviews
    • [22:36] Talking about a dive and surf skin with SlipIns
    • [26:27] Interview with Rick Rickman
    • [29:56] Are there any flap fins? 
    • [32:35] Microphones and picking shirts with William Cline
    • [33:51] The convergence of pilots and divers
    • [35:36] What’s coming up in the diving industry?
    • [40:32] Join our crew list at Latitude38.com 
    • Water Sports, Gadgets, and Gear
    • [41:18] Interview with Clark Ross
    • [43:52] Tour of his booths
    • [49:57] Interview with Nick from Fairway Underwater Scrubber
    • [54:51] An underwater scooter!
    • [1:01:14] Can people try it before they buy?
    • [1:02:35] Chatting with Clearwater Paradise Resort
    • [1:05:30] Clark & Ryan are officially best friends
    • [1:06:59] We made it to the end of Part 1!
    • Make sure to follow Good Jibes with Latitude 38 on your favorite podcast spot and leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts
    • Check out the June 2025 issue of Latitude 38 Sailing Magazine
    • Theme Song: “Pineapple Dream” by Solxis

 

Transcript:

Note: this transcript is not 100% accurate.

00:03

It really is a whole other level of fun in the water.

00:14

Ahoy, listeners! This is Ryan Foland and I’m very excited to welcome you to a very special episode of Good Jibes. Now I know you probably realize that I seem to always think these episodes are special, but this is very special, I promise, because I’m here in Long Beach and I’m looking at the LA Convention Center about to enter into the International Scuba Show. And I’m stopping here and I’m looking to my left and I see a huge great white shark, must be 22, 23 feet?

00:42

And then there’s a killer whale above it. And then there’s a swordfish to the right. And if you’re confused, it’s okay. Maybe you haven’t been to the Long Beach Convention Center because it is painted by none other than Weiland. And so it’s this huge circular dome. And the section I’m at,  I see a shark and there’s a seal and a gear baldy. It is literally the perfect place to house the International Scuba Show because it looks like it’s a big slice underwater.

 

01:12

And that’s exactly what we’re going to do today. We are going to dive deep into the crossover between sailing and scuba. And we’re going to explore how these two different worlds connect. So whether you’re a West Coast adventurer or whether you are somebody who loves the scuba and has not sailed, this episode is something that we can find where everything crosses. I’m a sailor. I love to spend time on the water and underwater. I do a lot of scuba diving. And that is what we’re going to dive into today.

 

01:42

So whether you’re curious about diving or if you’re ready to set sail, stay tuned. There are a lot of people here in line. I’m gonna go get my media pass and we’re gonna have some good jibes and some great dives. Let me figure out where I go. Oh, yes, I’m just gonna follow the people. I see a couple people in costumes, but  we’ll get to that in a little bit. All right, signing off for a moment.

 

02:11

here to grab my media pass.  Oh, uh, can we just inside the hall on the left? Thanks.

 

02:19

All right, I’ve rolled in and the first two people I see are two lovely mermaids. So I’m Ryan. This is the Good Jives podcast. We’re a sailing podcast catering to sailors up and down the West Coast. And I don’t know if you’ve heard of the magazine Latitude 38. It’s a 40 year old publication for sailors. And this is our podcast. we’re approaching on 200 episodes. We come out every Tuesday. I’m coming to explore and see what’s happening here. And you’re the first two people I meet. So maybe you can say hi. Introduce yourselves and.

 

02:48

I understand that you’re drying off, but it’s exciting to start off the podcast with a couple of mermaids. Yeah. So my name is Kristen and this is Kerry. So we actually work for a company called Scuba Radio.  Similar concept to what you do.  But ours is all about scuba diving. If you’d like, we will introduce you to the owner. He’s amazing. He’s very good at it. He also has a boating show too, but his is all about boating, not sailing.  So you have a nice little niche there in that. Yeah. Well, boaters are sailors, the sailors are boaters.

 

03:18

Yeah, so this is my third or fourth scuba show.  Her first.  We come in because we stay here to draw people in because we do a lot of giveaways in the morning. We give away dive trips, give away regulators, give away dive computers, anything like that from the people who donate their products to us.  we basically are the reason to get people to come talk to our boss because no one wants to talk to him.

 

03:42

You don’t want to talk to us. Oh, all right. Well, how did you get into those whole mermaid gig then? Is this something that was inspired by the ocean or your friends drinking into it or what? So I actually have been a professional mermaid since 2015. I started my own mermaid school in the Outer Banks. Awesome. and. Oh, I just stepped on your tail. I’m sorry about that. yeah. I started my own mermaid school in the Outer Banks and I was I guess it just fell into my lap after that.

 

04:10

It escalated once I started working with Scuba Radio.  And it further escalated because my patty rep was like, Kristen, you need to do this  mermaid instructing course that we’re doing. And I was grandfathered into it because I had already had so much experience in freediving  and  scuba diving as well as mermaid and starting my own school and teaching. So  I was one of the first few patty mermaid instructors in the country. Boom. I know. That’s awesome. brag. Yes.

 

04:38

But yeah, mean all of it kind of just fell into my lap and… it a lap if it’s still one big fin? Yeah, it’s still a lap. You still have a lap part of the fin. The thigh area would be your lap, I suppose. But, here’s one of my best friends from home. I’m from Virginia. We both are from Virginia. Yes, that’s exactly right. But I live here. I live in So this is a radio show, so I’m going to hand my microphone over as well. So let’s talk to the mermen here. Say hi to the Latitude 38 and good jibes nation.

 

05:08

Hello, everyone. We’re the best of mermaid friends. Yes. Yeah. From the East Coast. I brought her into mermaiding. I brought her into my mermaid world. Oh, yeah. It’s been wonderful living under the sea. Absolutely natural. Yeah. That’s basically all we do. stay here and we’re actually going to dry ourselves out a little bit more so we can walk to the back at some point. Will we find you in the pool later on? Is there actually swimming happening today? I there’s a huge… The pool here is more for like…

 

05:37

people like they’ll do like a discover scuba or testing out different types of gear. Luckily we do  happen to be friends with the people who started the scuba show years and years and years ago as well as you know what number this is how many scuba shows this has been. Do we know the. So my friend whose parents started the show is thirty six and he  his first scuba show that he ever went to he was in his mom’s stomach. So we’re looking at  thirty six plus. Yes.

 

06:03

I think maybe that was like, what did he say last night? That was probably like the first or second Scoobishow right before he was born. So yeah, so at least 36, 37 years. And do mermaids have any calculation like dog years of seven? Like do you guys live extra long? We’re immortal. Immortal? Yes, immortal. Yes. Yes, well, I hope that you have a great rest of the show here. And what a great way to kick it off other than representatives from under the water to help us get into the show.

 

06:33

Anything that I should check out or where should I head first?  Well, it depends on what you’re interested in. Well, pretend I’m a sailor from the West Coast. I’m already a scuba diver and maybe I have friends who are I’m yet to convince to go scuba diving or get certified or get into Talk to the talk to the certification booth side. Go to like Patty. So there’s certification. There’s also what? Just a whole bunch of like location based stuff. Yeah. So like there’s products people show displaying their products. There’s

 

07:01

the certifying agencies. There’s Dan, which is the dive insurance. There’s other dive insurance places here as well.  But it’s also  tourism boards  and resorts. So people from around the world would come and say, come and dive  in this area. I think I’m kind of interested in that because if I’m going to take a vacation, I haven’t really thought of diving as an element because more of like a local thing here for me or when I’m on the boat. OK. Check out.

 

07:28

The Fiji booth the Fiji booth I have not know but in Fiji you go there and I’m Fiji Okay raffle tonight at the party at the end of the night They’re doing the raffle where you can win your flights and stay at the pearl and at Fiji hot damn Okay, ladies, I gotta go I gotta go get in the raffle, but it was pleasure meeting you both Thank you so much, and maybe I’ll catch you on my way out. You’re all in the ocean You see us a flash of orange while you’re swimming while you’re sailing it was not us I promise

 

07:57

We won’t flip you off with our tail, we promise. Oh, okay. All right. We’ll see you later. It was a lovely conversation  with the Mermaids from Scuba Radio. However,  I looked after our short little interview and my recorder was dead. So I don’t know at what point that cut out. So maybe we got a full interview with the Mermaids. Maybe we got a half interview. Long story short, we made it past the Mermaids. We got into the show.

 

08:26

We’ve got our media pass and we’re ready to go. As I look, this is like your classic booth by booth by booth by booth by row by row by row. Reminds me a little of CES in Las Vegas, but scuba style. And for those of you who don’t know, CES is the Consumer Electronic Showcase. It is a big bash of tech and this is like a big bash of dive, water, conservation,  and I’m sure safety. Whew, where do I start?

 

08:56

I  am going to start to my left. Here we go.

 

09:04

It’s just after 10 a.m. Came here at the start of the show  and there are a lot of people. I have chosen this path to the left. So I’m just gonna kind of cruise through and see what I see. Well, I do see a lot of people with themed  t-shirts and everybody’s wearing their dive shirt or their backpack with seahorses and things. It seems like  I’m definitely in the  tourism of

 

09:33

Scuba-ing. I see all these exotic images and areas that look like places that we want to sail to. Mexico,  reef rainforests. See some huge landscape here of a coral reef with divers in the back. All-star  liveabords, Jack’s diving locker. A whole bunch of stuff. Natural insect repellent.

 

10:03

How’s it going buddy? All right, somebody flagged me down. How you doing sir? Good, how are you? I’m good, I’m just getting here. I’m cruising around. You handed me a flyer here. Let’s see,  what is this booth and what are you guys doing? I’m from Honduras, born and raised on the Bay Islands from Maratang. My name is Harrison Jackson. I’m here representing Tranquility Resort and Exhibition. So what we’re presenting, we’re trying to get you guys to know why we’re the best on the island, the best prices.

 

10:30

We get your gear and everything set up. The first shipwreck is right out the reef, like four or five minutes away. Inside, close to the hotel, close by the water, we have our concrete breakage. Underneath there has tons of fishes. So we have a different option. If you guys are not too into diving, have snorkeling packages as well. So is Honduras a big diving area? Yes, it’s a big diving area. On the island, I actually have the second largest barrier reef around. So we’re protected from hurricanes and everything.

 

10:57

Do you have many people who sail out to Honduras and is there a  community that sail to go dive out there?  No, sir. Not too many.  I’m here from a sailing podcast and I’m checking out. So we couldn’t sail to where you’re going here.  Yes, you could. But there’s not many sailors. Not as many. No, sir. Most of them come and they stay. So that’s most people come on cruise and they stay like that. But last month we had a sailor and he enjoyed it. So he says he’s going to sail back. He’s going to spread the water. So.

 

11:25

It’s good what you’re doing trying to get people for us too, man. I appreciate that a lot. All right, well, Honduras is officially now on my bucket list. Thank you, sir. Good luck today at the show. Well, there you have it.

 

11:38

Fathom Dive, Hawaii, Kawaii.

 

11:43

different villas.  I feel  like all of these are  maps, crazy places. Everybody packages. I feel like there’s a lot of packages being sold today here. Got the Neil Watson’s crew,  Bimini Scuba Center.  Yeah, he’s in front of  underwater.  There’s a lot of sharks. This  is maybe a shark exhibit. His QR code even has a shark in it.

 

12:12

We’re going talk with this guy for a minute. I’m waiting because he is finishing up his conversation. Hey, sir. Do you mind if I chat with you and a handjam microphone at the same time? All right. All right. Somewhere like that. Why don’t you introduce yourself? I randomly came over your booth because I saw a bunch of sharks and divers. Awesome. Yeah. My name is Neil Watson. I got Bimini Scuba Center in Bimini in the Bahamas. And we do a

 

12:35

ton of shark dives and shark week shows every year. I see you even have a shark in your QR code. It’s very on brand. We do. We are on brand. Now that’s a hammerhead. Are those hammerheads? Those are both great hammerheads. So they’re the largest species of hammerheads. And where we are in Bimini is the only place in the world that you can consistently dive with great hammerhead sharks. Interesting. It’s funny because from the side angle, they don’t look like hammerheads. It’s very true. Their hammer kind of blends in.

 

13:03

They’re hammered sideways. All right. So I’m with Good Jibes here today doing a live podcast recording and we’re West Coast sailors.  Oh rad. Yeah. Very cool.  I would assume that you get some sailing traffic out that way. Yeah. We’re in Bimini, which is the gateway to the Caribbean and the gateway to the Bahamas. So we are most cruisers first entry into the Caribbean and last  on the way out when season’s over.

 

13:29

The reality is that not all sailors dive and not all divers sail. And I’m here to kind of explore that connection. I take it you’re a diver, are you a sailor? I am a sailor. Okay. Yeah. Very cool. think, well, let’s also set the bar for sailing like pretty low, right? Okay. As far as like, so when you say you’re a sailor, you’ve been sailing, you’re sailing, I mean, you’re in an area like that, but define your sailor-ness. I used to have a catamaran, a 40 foot leopard that I did.

 

13:58

you know, like weak charters with. The wife would be the cook and I would drive out there in the area? Are you from Always in the Bahamas. Yeah, I was born in the Bahamas. I’m from the Bahamas.  I don’t think you can’t not be a sailor. You’re born into it. mean, you got to… The only  way to get around an archipelago is by boat. So you do have to figure out one way the other, whether it’s a motor or a sail. Now, why do you think more  sailors aren’t  scuba? Or is that…

 

14:27

something I’m just sort of making up. know a lot of sailors, a lot of them do dive, but I wonder like… Yeah, I think that a ton of young sailors are into being in the water, whether it’s free diving or scuba diving. And then I think that there’s a big set of cruisers that probably get into it a little late in life and that they’re more on their relaxed kind of sunset cruise, you could say, and they’re a little less…

 

14:56

into some more adventurous type of sports. More into the recreational, let’s look at the Now, do you think all age categories should dive with sharks? I do. mean, I think all dives are a little bit different, but I think as far as the Caribbean shark diving goes, it’s a really easy dive. And I’m looking at the picture. Is this pretty representation? Is this a representation of what is sandy white bottoms? Looks like about 30 feet, maybe at most. Right in 30 feet of water and a sandy bottom. it’s a really easy dive.

 

15:25

to certain spot and you just like,  everybody cuts their arms and they all bleed out to bring them or what? Well, we usually cut the fins off some fish and bleed that out to get them around. Okay. Not the, not the guests.  But yeah, I mean, it’s, something we started about 12 years ago, this particular iteration  of shark diving. But I mean, the Bahamas in general is the pioneers of shark diving. We had the very first, you know, provision shark dive. What is a provision shark dive? that what you’re talking bait. Okay.

 

15:55

Yeah. So we’ve pioneered it for over 40 years. been doing it and we’ve stepped up in different species. We also have a satellite location in Grand Bahama here where we do Tiger Beach. Okay.  So we feed large tiger sharks. You know, it’s funny. I was doing a little research on the show just on YouTube and came across some diving videos obviously  and there was instructions on  when these specific sharks come after you.

 

16:23

how to stiffen your arm and push them down and move your body away. And I was like, maybe I might need this some time and, know. Yeah, I mean, I don’t know. I don’t know how much I buy into stuff like that. I mean, it works with. I just saw that because I see somebody here has a similar. Yeah, and these are these are conditioned sharks and all those videos that you saw were with conditioned sharks. So they’re trained. I mean, that’s a tough word, they’re broken in. It might be a loaded word, but.

 

16:51

But they are certainly familiar with the process and used to being around people in a provision setting. your hammerheads provisioned? Yeah. I mean, they all will get some of these big. They’re 14 feet long sometimes. And it takes a long time. We’ll get sharks that show up on the site for multiple years before they are comfortable enough to come to the bait box. Oh, And we’ll see an ID. So it’s a process that can take quite a while.

 

17:21

You’re building trust with these sharks. Absolutely. And that makes sense because the sharks should not trust us. They should not. We should not be scared of them. They should be scared of us. No. That’s exactly right. Now they all look like they have sticks or poles or spears. Is that their protection?  It’s less protection and more stabilization  where we do this dive because what really helps with drawing sharks in is  bait and a scent.  And what helps move that scent around is current. So this dive has a decent amount of

 

17:51

So you’re overweighted and sitting on the bottom and the weight tends to want to push you forward So that pulls kind of okay? Right yeah, so for sailors that end up out that way and there’s a not certified Is this an experience you do to like a quick certification or is this only for certified divers for uncertified divers absolutely? It’s hook them up to the snuba not snuba it would probably be challenging with the current and sharks with the hoses but

 

18:18

We do a Discover Scuba Diving, an entry pool training session in the morning, and they can join the afternoon dive if there’s availability and the conditions are calm enough. All right, so we’re out there in Bimini. We’re going to do your shark dive. What’s two other things that sailors need to know about when they’re in your town?  Well, mean, the wild dolphin swims are pretty epic,  and  it’s  around the area where a lot of…

 

18:43

the sailboaters have to pass through anyway, so they’ll see a lot of wild dolphins and spotted dolphins in Bimini.  And the other thing is to just try not to hit the sandbars. We spend an awful lot of time helping sailboaters on and off sandbars  and  fixing their rudders and shafts and props. What’s the trick to that? Is there a magic trick? Is this more just awareness? You can now talk to them. say your number one thing to remember in the Bahamas.

 

19:13

than anywhere else is that it actually means the name is Spanish for shallow water. So be very, careful. If you see white bottom, is not good. Bahamas means? Bahama. Yeah. That means shallow water? Bahamas. Yeah. Bahamar was the original name in Spanish. that’s just shallow water. Yeah. Look at that. I learned about sharks that build trust with people. I’m learning about.

 

19:43

Spanish, yo hablo español pero necesito más personas con hablas. Mucho español  allí? No. I only know bad words. just realized I can’t say any of the words I know. Well, this is an explicit podcast, so no problemo. problemo. Okay, okay. I see. see. All right. No Spanish. Simon, cabron. I think that’s something like, bitch.  Yeah.  Just trying to, well, hey, this has been a lot of fun, Neil,  and…

 

20:09

This is like your deal. So like your name is up on the up on the tag in the brag there.  So if people are headed out there, how do they find you?  Websites Bimini Scuba Center dot com. All right. Now, my final shameless plug is that if I make it out that way or maybe we find an excuse to bring me out there, we could document the whole thing. We could do a anytime you’re ready. I’ll try to find  some scuba gear here where I can have an underwater microphone. I have them. You have them.

 

20:36

Yeah, so we can do a whole OTS. So you’re telling me we can do a podcast hanging out with sharks. Oh, yeah. Are any of them trained enough to come and answer some questions?  A few of them. A few of them, okay. Do you name them?  We do. Well,  we used to name them  all of ourselves, but now there’s a shark research center there in Bimini  and we partner with them for a lot of the research and they do the dives. So we’ve all kind of agreed to use their names.  Oh,  can you make your name the middle name or something? I feel like.

 

21:04

We did name one after my daughter, but the rest of them are named after Greek gods and goddesses. So  they’re all named after them. All right. Well, I’m looking forward to saying hi to Poseidon, because I’m sure he’s out there. Yeah. Well, we haven’t used that one yet. We’re kind of saving it for a giant male. That’s one of the only ones we haven’t used. But the rest of them are there. Well, you know what? When Poseidon comes around, we should be there to document it. Sounds like fun. Well, thank you, on behalf of the Latitude 38.

 

21:34

and Good Jibes Nation. I hope people come out there and maybe if they get to your location, they say code word Good Jibes, maybe you’ll be like, all right, we’ll hook you up with an extra something or other. Free stickers. Yeah, free stickers. All right, Neil’s hooking you up here at the Scuba Show. All right, people are lining up to talk to you, Neil. I’m going to give that time back to you. Thanks again. All right, man. Great day. Thanks.

 

21:57

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22:27

from sponsoring Good Jibes.  All right, I hear Caribbean music and I see what are these onesies?  that it? We are a podcast that caters to West Coast sailors  who sail around the world. And I’m here at the Scuba Show because there are a lot of sailors who scuba and snorkel, but there’s a lot of snorkel and scuba who don’t sail. So we’re just talking about the convergence.

 

22:53

Tell me about this onesie and you’re gonna have to probably convince me to put this on or is this just a ladies version? Well, to be truthful, I don’t know if I really wanna see a man in that. Okay, good, good, fair enough. We do have swimsuits for the gentlemen. Okay, good. Predominantly, it is unisex, but if you’re not from California, I’m from Florida, so I would say predominantly I would like to see women in this. Yes, yes, I agree. But it’s for all the ladies who wanna look pretty under the water, have the UV resistance.

 

23:23

So this is basically body sunscreen. Better. So I’m a ginger and I invest heavily in my protection of my skin. So I don’t know. Maybe you should make one of these for me. So as the whitest person in Florida, a native who doesn’t get minority credit, unfortunately,  I wear these religiously when I dive. And I can’t tell you the last time I’ve been sunburned, unfortunately. OK. And remind us who you are, what this company is. We just sort of rolled up here on your booth. And is this you on the flyer?

 

23:52

Yeah, so this is Slip-Ins and they’re UV-protectant surf and dive skins. You can surf in them, you can dive in them. We do have some for gentlemen. We have masculine prints like whale shark, tiger shark. Oh! That cater to the more masculine Do you have any here? We do. So we have the whale shark and the tiger shark, which are adjacent. Oh, yes. Oh, I see the whale shark, yes. also have carbon fiber, which is new. Carbon fiber, so okay. That’s a good one for guys. Okay. But we have gentlemen. Obviously not low-cut.

 

24:21

That is personal preference. OK. Whatever makes you happy. And is this a certain type of material? Does it dry fast? what? It’s fast drying. Speak to my lady sailors out there, my women sailors. I’m actually becoming a captain, so I never thought about wearing these up in the bridge. I should. OK. But mean, if you’re sailing, you’ve got.

 

24:43

I mean, my wife goes through all kinds of different bathing suits and then even like sometimes they don’t fit right. Sometimes they’re this. This is like… are body contouring. So they fit all different body types. And what’s really nice is as a diver who dives multiple times in one day, I’m in and off the boat. I don’t want to change. I don’t want to put something dry on. I don’t want to use a towel. You’re dry almost immediately after getting on the boat, walking around in the sunlight. You’re warm. It’s kind of like a pseudo wetsuit too, as it keeps you a little warm. And what’s really nice is you can wear them

 

25:13

underneath wetsuits to stay even warmer. I feel like that would be  material resistance upon resistance though. It’s so much easier to put on the wetsuits. We got Rickish  shade in his head. Hey they got tiger sharks over here. Yeah for us dudes. Tiger sharks and carbon fiber apparently. Oh yeah.  It actually makes putting on wetsuits a lot easier.

 

25:37

Well, I know like, you know, there’s the paper bag or the Ziploc bag trick or if you have a sock on or something punches through. Or the soap trick. I’ve only ever put on wetsuits and I wear the Scuba Pro, the two-piece wetsuit. Okay. So it’s a lot easier. It’s a lot more… Yes, this looks like a great free diving outfit as well. Okay, do you have any that are like, you know…

 

26:00

light blue on one side and dark blue on the other. you know, basic camouflage. So if something looks up, it looks like the sky and somebody looks down, it looks like the bottom. Rick’s shaking his head. Rick, Rick Rickman. Can we talk to Rick real quick? Rick, is this your gig as well? Yeah, I’m the I’m the creator of the visionary behind it. So how how have you not done the classic light blue and then and then top blue? Because what I try to do is create patterns that

 

26:28

nobody else has. Okay.  And but you don’t have that one. I find I find basic colors kind of boring myself. Yeah. When you design something that you’re trying to create that looks  unique.  Avoiding the typical  is important. These are incredible. I’m looking at shots of Lauren and she’s swimming with a what kind of shark is that?

 

26:57

Caribbean reef shark. They’re extremely dangerous. Now here’s a reef shark with a person. No, this is the whale shark. Yeah, with the person with the whale shark thing.  See, I could look like that. It wouldn’t be that bad.

 

27:12

Yeah, do they? Whaleshark is our best seller by far. OK, what does something like this run? 185. 185. Do you do any sponsorship, like influencer deals? if I wear it on my next podcast or something like that? We have so many people who want to be influencers that we have to keep a manageable number. OK, well, what about what about those that are?

 

27:36

You know, influencing the airwaves on podcasts for sailors. We have we have several of those. Any show specials? No, not for this show.

 

27:47

Okay, you guys are so cool and so demand. You make whatever you want. You don’t give them away for free. You charge. You don’t give discounts. That’s a strong marketing position. I like it.  Well, we’ve had we’ve been in business now for 10 years and we’ve had pretty good luck. Okay. How does somebody not knock this off? Is this all trademarked and copyrighted? It’s copyrighted and it’s trademarked and

 

28:10

we’re very insistent about keeping it protected. Yes, very cool.  Well, I’m excited. have to go save up a couple of nickels, rub some dimes together to come up with $185. Or we’ll talk offline about an influencer deal. Well, the one thing that you didn’t hit on,  which is  exceedingly important  for our product,  is it’s totally stinger proof. Really? only thing  that we haven’t had the guts to test  is

 

28:39

the box jelly in Australia. I’ll do that. You put me in the suit. You put me in the suit. That’s worth one hundred eighty five dollars. You have to fly me out there, though, too. We’ll do it. It’ll be like I’ll put on the suit and I’ll be like, all right, the boxes now touching me. Oh, oh, I’ll give like maybe I’ll talk about it in terms of like Indian food chilies. I’ll be like, we’re at a one or two. OK, now we’re back down to one.

 

29:04

Right? When she gets her captain’s license, she’ll take us out there. That’s the only thing that we haven’t tested that doesn’t sting through.

 

29:12

Okay, I was in Long Beach recently and there’s all kinds of moon jellyfish which have a very slight sting. I’m happy to jump in the water and test that out. We’ve already had several people do that for us. Okay. But we did secretly touch them yesterday just to see. We’re looking at, we’re looking. they give you a little tingle. Little tingle. But these. Now, speaking of tingle and tinkle, I’m assuming people just tinkle right through these things? Well, they can. Well, or do you have to take the whole onesie off to go? I’m just asking for the ladies.

 

29:41

You don’t pee in your wetsuit either? This seems like an easier pass-through,  does the whale shark have a little fin or something? Like a little flap fin? No, no, no, no  flap fin.  I mean a big flap fin. Don’t get me wrong. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Oh, those are just the toppers. We’ve just come out with  spring suits. Neoprene. Okay. So actual wetsuits. And so it’s kind of a…

 

30:10

a warmth factor because sometimes people are really sensitive to the cold. Yeah. And even you wear this and you drop down 30, 40 feet and know the recline changes. And you don’t really have to wear a weight belt with that I would imagine. That’s pretty lightweight. Yeah. So here’s a real question, Rick. Yeah. How many sailors out there are there and how many sailors do not have your product on their boat? That’s the real question. A lot. Now how are you getting in front of sailors? We have a 40 year old magazine publication.

 

30:39

It’s the print to our audio and the audio to our print. You know what? We could talk about it. For $185, we’ll do a swap trade. No, advertising is a little bit expensive and we are same like you. We can charge the price. Who is it getting in front of people? It’s business. But I’ll hit you up. We’ll get you in this magazine because now you’re obviously on the podcast. Maybe we could do a whole on location dedicated test to prove to people because you want to…

 

31:07

We want to create an experience out of this. You gather all the influencers and then we’ll bring them together and then she’ll be the captain and we’ll attract the sharks and we’ll… All right, Rick, tell me what you think. This is my last final pitch. It’ll be an interesting process to get people from our influencers are all over the globe. Yeah. So we can do them together might be a little problematic. But I mean, maybe we do it virtually.

 

31:37

We’ll see what  happens. We’ll see what happens. All right, well, all joking aside, I love what you guys are doing.  That is us, yes. And then I’m Ryan.Folland, if you want to follow me as well. All right, Ryan. Yes. Well, Rick and Lauren and Robin, this has been great to meet everybody. And mark my words. We’ll figure out some way to get me in a whale shark suit in the water somewhere in the world with you guys soon.

 

32:02

And we’d love to share this with, that is me, yes.  We’ll get  you connected, but thanks so much. This is more motivation than ever to work out so I look like the best whale shark ever. All right.  Thanks, Ryan. Thank you.

 

32:19

Okay, I was drawn to a booth with two people in pink shirts who were talking on microphones and I’m like, know, like calls to like. So here I am and William, would you like to say what’s up with the pink shirt, the microphones, how you’re doing, who you are and what you’re doing here? Yeah, Ryan. So my name is William Klein and my son, Britton Klein over there. Sup, Britton.

 

32:39

is we’re both working our booth here at the Scuba Show in Long Beach. We produce a weekly podcast called Marketing Minutes and it’s for the dive professionals or dive industry people that are interested in hearing about what’s going on in the dive community. is it just a community or are you also like helping them with marketing stuff? Well, we have a magazine too. We produce every month. That’s the marketing magazine. Okay. It’s for the dive industry. So all of our talk is usually about what’s happening in the world of diving. Okay. You’re sailing, right? Yes. And so here’s the thing. Not all sailors are

 

33:09

divers and not all divers are sailors. But there are a lot that are both. Yes. A lot. Yes. crossover. That’s great. And so I live in Long Beach and I just love to come to location and do this. Like talk to random people about what’s happened and things that I’m interested in and things that our Latitude 38 nation is interested in as well. So I know that we’re industry. Like we can’t, we can’t, you can’t talk to us about that, right? But talk to us about this convergence of sailing and scuba and

 

33:37

Well, you know, there’s a lot of crossover  activities.  classic example is aircraft pilots. A lot of private plane pilots are divers. A tremendous amount. In fact, so many that lots of times dive destinations will actually exhibit at air shows. So, you know, I don’t know if anybody’s done a lot of research on the sailing community versus diving, but I would bet it’s boating and divers like to boat and we can’t do our activity without a boat. Even if it’s sailboats. know. I was talking with somebody that came in just before recording and I asked if he

 

34:07

a sailor and he’s like, he’s like, no, no, you know, I don’t have the time for that, let alone I hardly have time for diving, let alone my work takes all my time and I don’t have any art. I have to dive. And just went down this rabbit hole is like, bro, I’m sorry, you don’t enjoy what you do and you can’t get away. So the point is, if you have a boat and you’re out there, you’re closer to the water. I actually think, you know, the people that don’t have a boat that have scuba gear, they just need a boat.

 

34:31

Right? Absolutely. Absolutely. So back in January, I was down in the BVI’s and went on a 49 cat that we chartered out of St. Thomas.  And it was the coolest experience, a beautiful boat. We went all over the islands with diving everywhere. It was so cool. So mean, the British Virgin Islands, of course, is so and US are so set up for diving and sailing. It’s just like the ultimate connection of the two. That’s why I there’s a big crossover. Yeah. Had you not been on a sailboat before then?

 

34:58

Oh no, I actually had a small boat once. Okay. Cap size and I wasn’t a very good sailor. You know what? That’s part of the fun is the cap size getting in there. I love a laser, a little 14 foot, little you are the balance and the weight and everything. Okay, so what does the future hold? What do we need to know? I mean, you’ve got the pulse on the industry, so you’re one step ahead.

 

35:18

Well, what do sailors need to know about what’s happening in the diving industry? You know, there’s a couple of new things that are out there that are coming to the market. One of them is a company called Avelo that has a scuba unit that’s about 40 % lighter than standard scuba. So for a sailboat, it’s much more compact. When you say unit, is that like the actual tank? The tank. The whole set up is much lighter, much smaller. Like a foldable bike kind of spot? Kind of concept. And it’s really great for someone on a boat that has space issues. There’s also a few other companies out there that have very, very compact.

 

35:48

BCDs that are designed for travel. Aqualung has one. So I mean, you if you’re a sail out there and you’re wanting to get your gear outfitted on your boat, you you definitely want to look for something that’s super efficient. There’s a manufacturer here that makes great compressors called Coltrie. That was going to be my next question. Yeah. Yeah. And you want to put one of those on your… And they’re portable, so you can take it off if you’re not going to plan to dive. And that’s a really great way of outfitting your boat and being ready to go diving.

 

36:12

Now tell me about this image on scuba diving industry. You’ve got a huge hammerhead shark. I just talked to the guy who does hammerhead shark diving, but like what is happening here? Well, that was probably the guy. Is that you or is that your son? I was on this dive. OK. And actually this is a shot by Neil Watson Jr. which you might have talked That’s the guy who I just talked to. Yeah, he looks like old man. Neil is my buddy. He shot this photo and gave it to us. He’s one of our big advertisers. that Neil right there? No, he took the That’s one of his feeders, but he’s the one that took this picture.

 

36:40

That’s hilarious. So that was in Bimini. We were just there about six weeks ago. I just talked to them like six minutes ago. Yeah, we were and literally we’re on this dive and we went there to get this shot and got the shot. And so that’s it’s a really great this old article actually about it. So it’s funny because we just heard from him about it. Now I want to know from you about it. How was that experience? I learned that they’re they’re trusting sharks, right? Was it as cool as it seems like?

 

37:06

You know, it was cooler because they have two species of sharks that show up. They get the hammerheads, which are very unique, and they’re kind of like puppies of the ocean. They look kind of menacing, but they’re really not so bad. But he brings in tiger sharks. And tiger sharks are like the lions of the ocean. I mean, these things are massive. They look like a giant steamship coming in. And they feed both of them. So on that same dive, we had two tiger sharks and two hammerheads for an hour and a half. It was amazing. It was absolutely amazing. I’ll show you if I can find the article. I’ll show you the photos. But it was crazy.  Well, they can’t see it.

 

37:36

So you have to paint the picture in their mind’s eye. But on the front, it is this, how big is that shark? Probably 15 feet? Yeah, he’s probably about 400, 500 pounds. Yeah, so if you look at his noggin, his nose, it goes all the way across, like the hammer of the hammerhead, that thing looks like that’s at least three or four feet wide. It is. And what’s really interesting about the hammerheads is the eyes are on the very end of that long snout, right, on each side. And the way their eyes pivot,

 

38:01

They can actually, if they move their head back and forth, they actually almost have a 360 degree vision around their entire body for safety. They only have a little tiny narrow spot in the very back they can’t see. Their blind spot, so you just follow behind them really fast. Exactly, right. They’re amazing animals. And he’s literally hand feeding there. Yes. Like throwing bait into the mouth. It’s one of the few places on the entire planet where you can do it. It’s in Bimini, Bahamas. It’s a great…

 

38:23

which is a fantastic sailing destination, by the way, if you’ve ever gone to the Bahamas. He said he definitely spends a lot of time taking boats off of the sand brims. And did you know that the Bahama was initially Bahamar and in Spanish translates to shallow water? I didn’t know that. Well, if you spend any time in the Bahamas, you’ll see it sadly plain and simple because I mean, it is shallow everywhere along that great Bahama bank.

 

38:52

Well, hey, this is great. Now, I can’t let anybody know about your secret scuba diving industry magazine because it’s just for industry folks. know what? There’s a lot of people out there that are dive masters and above and that they’re considered professional in our industry and they can subscribe for free. We don’t charge anything scuba diving industry dot com. OK, interesting.  And  I am a regular certified diver. I tried to do my advanced and then I it just didn’t happen a long time ago. But I do want to get my.

 

39:21

rescue diver so that I can volunteer at the aquarium and clean the tanks and hang out with big fish. You know, it’s a great class. You can do your advanced dive on a weekend, your class on a weekend. You can do your rescue in another three to four days here in Long Beach. Dive and surf down to Redondo. You’ve got a couple of dive shops around this area here. I mean, it is a great course. The cool thing about the rescue diver course, especially if you’re by yourself with your wife or a significant other or a dive buddy on a boat, you’re kind of on your own.

 

39:47

And the rescue  course teaches you how to rescue yourself and somebody else, basically you and your diver, you and your buddy. So it’s a great course and everybody should take it. It’s fantastic. All right. Well, this is great. Say again where they can find this and check it out. scuba-diving-industry.com. All right. Well, thank you, sir. And thank you over there. You guys enjoy with your podcast. Thanks, Ryan. All right. See you, buddy. Hey, we should do a follow. I’ll follow your podcast. I’ll subscribe to your podcast if you subscribe to mine. Is that good? All right. Thanks, buddy.

 

40:18

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40:47

just happy days of sailing. If you have a boat or want to crew, add your name to the Latitude 38 crew list at latitude 38.com. You don’t know where such a simple act will take you. All right, I’m here with Clark Ross. Clark, I was kind of cruising around and you were in the middle of all these booths. And then I asked if you were just somebody here who was just an attendant. And you’re like, no, sir, I have all six booths around you. I’m like, wow, you’re the man to talk to. So Clark, tell us a little bit about yourself, who you are.

 

41:17

And then let’s talk about sailing and scuba and the collision of everything. Well,  what this is, a consortium of watersports,  you started out in just scuba.

 

41:28

And then we originated kayak diving back in 19… Wait, you started kayak diving? We originated kayak diving. That’s pretty good. Back in 1991. You see the original manual over there? No, let’s walk over here. Let me see. What is this? The original manual for… is the original manual for kayak diving. Oh, it’s wrapped in cellophane. Yes. The original kayak diving. Okay, in the air. the… We’ve gone from kayak diving to paddleboard diving, which includes the sit on top.

 

41:57

kayaks and the paddle boards. Well, I was paddle boarding yesterday and my wife has a kayak and I was looking and it’s got the little design for the tank to be in there. So you’re basically the godfather of all of that. Actually, we put the dive tank in the first open deck kayak. No shit. With ocean kayak. Do you guys realize who I’m talking to? Well, congratulations. Did you patent it and make any money off it or did they steal it?

 

42:23

Well,  that’s a long story.  Maybe that might be  a good full episode. Yes, it is. OK. Side note. OK.  But really, we’re here. I’m here.  I love to dive. I’m more of a lobster diver these days, but been certified since I was 13.  Sailed to Catalina all the time. Just the ocean is my potion. So I’m excited to be here on behalf of sailors.  And we know a lot of sailors dive and a lot of divers sail and.

 

42:49

vice versa. Absolutely. As a of we’re doing that right now trying to contact sailing and scuba and even windsurfing and we actually have a kayak that we can do. Are you going to invite, you know what you need to invent? The first ever wing foil diving combo and manual.

 

43:10

You’re gonna get one these younger guys to do that. Okay, we’re gonna have to talk about that. If not, then I’ll help you go in and we’ll split 50s on it. this is, this is  bringing together the water sports  community here. We have  the paddle boards, have the  dive kayaks,  we have  the go fins that will fit on the bottom of the boards. yeah, let’s go through real quick, little quick tour. over here. All right. This is the go fin, fits on the bottom of any of your… I thought you said go fin. thought you meant…

 

43:40

thought this was a propeller. This is a dive light on a scag.  Ah, he just got blinded. That’s a lot of lumen right there. Okay, so wait, you took a light and you put it on a scag.

 

43:54

All right, Brandon, Brandon, why don’t you tell us about this? We decided to come up with our own lighting system after getting frustrated with some of the other ones we were using before. So we invented our own and lighting system. what you’re on your paddleboard at night? Yeah. OK. Yeah, it’s really popular. Navigation lights. Oh, my gosh. Yes. OK, so this is just to be help other boats see you. This is more for, you know, yes, you can be seen by the other boats, but it’s also to go at night and actually see the sea life. You can see turtles, fish.

 

44:25

Sharks  a lot of tour operators use these to give a full moon tour so no shit or 30 people come out and pay for it We’re explicit radio you can say  Shit fuck damn piss you can accessorize somebody earlier She was selling those suits, and I asked if she peed in it She’s like no I don’t pee in my wetsuit, and she said she didn’t pee. I don’t believe her but anyways

 

44:49

Go ahead. And the thing you can actually accessorize, you can take the light out, use it just for daytime use. You can put a camera mount in there as well. that’s for a GoPro that snaps right into there? Damn. It kind of grabs it and holds it. OK. So it’s really cool if you’re snorkeling during the day because your paddleboard is your support vessel. And then you’re seeing you’re filming yourself essentially or whatever else it is. Sure. Just like hands free, essentially. Hands free. Yeah. And then I see here on the the diagram, you’re towing it. And so it’s supplied. There you go. OK. Now, this is you are just you’re

 

45:18

Did who invented this? Is he you? He did. Yes, you surround yourself with some smart people here. That’s right. All right. So this is Justin. All right, Justin. You’re not going to believe this. I want to see a sail come out of one of these things. But how about a jet propulsion paddleboard? I’ve seen it as a fin. That’s what I thought your fin was over there. No, this is a jet. Wait a second. Here we go. All right.

 

45:42

All right, Justin, here you go. Introduce yourself, Justin. I’m Justin. I work with SIPA Boards out of Slovenia, and we’re partnering with AWS A.

 

45:50

to kind of enhance accessibility, right? So you can set this up as a kayak, can set this up as a paddleboard, and it’s got a smart drive. actually has a GPS and an LTE modem. So family members, tour operators can actually track in geocache, geocache and geofence, Oh, geofence, Yeah, so you can actually track your clients on the water.

 

46:18

Wow. Yeah, yeah. it’s uh, so it’s not an add-on. It’s just it’s the full board. Yeah SIPA,  S-I-P-A, SIPA boards. SIPA is actually a… It’s got a light. Look, can we go look at this? Where’s the actual jet? What’s going on? So the jet has, this board’s been around, iterations of this board have been around for about 10 years and these guys, you know, they’re engineers so they just constantly innovate.  Oh, it’s not a light. That’s the actual jet propulsion in the little thing right there. Yeah, yeah. So the nice thing about that is that there’s no…

 

46:48

snagging of growth on the flight theoretically stopped pretty hard with one of the drives that’s attached to your skeg. Right. So this is actually clear set in debris. It actually has an auto like expulsion. So if I were to describe this is about what eight inches wide by about 24 inches long and it just sits in the middle does that whole thing pull out then of the unit and it’s an inflatable board.

 

47:10

Right, and it self inflates too, so the drive will actually inflate the board. Oh really? Yeah. So it doesn’t come out, it’s part of it, so that’s also the blow up. It does come out, it’s like in a donut hole that kind wedges itself in. Can I see on the other side, it? Oh, so it comes through fully on the other side. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

 

47:28

But really cool brands  and again, we’re really  trying to partner with excess like our folks accessibility, right? Yeah a lot of  end users of paddleboard  When you say accessibility, what does that mean? Like I can’t get into my car. I can’t get in my boat.  It’s not it Grandparents can go with their kids. Got it. Got  it  So you put grandpa on this thing he doesn’t have to paddle and I’m looking at the paddle you have in your hand and so like an electric skateboard or something you have your

 

47:58

It’s weathered via Bluetooth. It has a kill switch so if you go in the water it’s going to shut off. Oddland is about a 15 meter barrier basically where you it will have an auto shut off but in water it’s about five. Okay. So yeah it’s really well thought out. We also do sit down paddle boarding. We have kayak paddles. What’s the difference between a stand up paddle board and a sit down paddle board? I feel like it’s a good joke. A seat. Okay.

 

48:27

Do you know what the chair said when it left the room?  No, what? See ya!  Okay, well, so thank you Justin, that was very cool. And where do people find out about this?  Superboards.com And is this somebody who is sailing  in the West Coast or to Catalina or in the Channel Islands? Is this something that they need on their boat? Yeah, it comes with a backpack.

 

48:51

So it’s basically the blow up paddle board that has its own inflator, has a jet propulsion in it. GPS, LTE. The whole setting limits and stuff is also interesting. Yeah, everything together. It’s a complete package that really creates a good experience. And what does something like this cost? Entry level is $22.50. Okay. And what’s like pro advanced jet model? Around $30, $32. Alright. And then what’s the one with the sail on it?

 

49:21

To be determined.  I’m telling you, you have all this propulsion. We need to talk about inventing something that has to do with sailing here. All right.  Here’s the second part of that.  All right.  All right. So Nick here has been introduced by Chris. Nick and Nick, we’re the Good Jibes podcast. You’re talking to a bunch of sailors on the West Coast. Awesome. So we’re Fairway underwater scrubbers.  We have three different type of products.  We have a single unit, dual unit  and our… Oh, it’s like a little grinder for…

 

49:50

It’s a cleaner. It has different accessories. It can submerge under 150 feet.

 

49:57

150 RPMs, hour work time, hour and a half charging time. Okay, so like for I used to have a business called Dirty Bottom Cleaning. I would just scrub in the bottom of my boats. You would scrub boats with that? That’s right. That’s right. And you have different accessories that you can switch off. I see one that’s got a double, a double hander. Yes. So we have our dual right here and that’s basically two in one. And then it’s counter rotating. So it gives you a more balanced feel of it. Well, this is cool, Rick.

 

50:24

And so what is this essentially for  I mean any underwater cleaning right? see on your poster.  Sailboats.  Sailboats.  Also there’s some new little critters in the water that you can’t get in the water out of without  cleaning your hull. According to the Park Service. Well a lot of people have people come and actually clean their boats.  Entry and exit where they are monitoring that nowadays.  on the bottom of your boat.

 

50:53

Just take it off and you’re good to go with the park service or the…  Oh, so like if you’re taking a small craft or something, they’re going to inspect your boat before they go in?

 

51:02

called yellow mussel crabs and all What is it again? Zebra mussels. Ah, so you would have this in the back of your car and then you’d put it down. Yep. So if you want from one link to another, you would clean it with the scrubber real quick. And that way you can move your boat from one link to another. better than a microfiber rag. Oh, yes. Now we got, you want to say hi over here? How’s it going? So you just happen to be at the booth that we’re rolling by, but Rick is, or I’m sorry, Clark is talking about all these different, but what brings you here today?

 

51:32

I own a whole cleaning business. Like you said, you owned one. What’s your boat?  What’s the business? Mine was dirty bottom cleaning. That was pretty good at the time. How about you? Boat MD. Oh, boat doctor. All Are you here in Long Beach? Yeah, I’m here in Long Beach and I also work for Los Rios Wetland Stewards as a commercial diver.  Awesome. Have you ever heard of the magazine Latitude 38? If not, should be on your radar for a couple of reasons because 40 year old publication or up and down the coast, you can get them in any West Marine or anything like that.

 

52:02

And  yeah, mean, maybe you should put your bottom cleaning service in there. The doctor. Now, are you just a one spot shop or do you have a whole team? Like, what’s going on? I got like four guys who work for me. Damn straight, dude. Props to that. Yeah. You know, I’m always fascinated with the business around cleaning things because shit always gets dirty. All right. Back to Nick. Yes.  I don’t know.  Clark was handing you the mic. It’s like he thinks you should say something else. OK, so we can hold you. Oh, wait, real quick. Think of what you’re going to say. Give a little quick pitch for  for.

 

52:31

clean MD is that it boat MD boat MD here you go how do they find you  find me at www dot boat MD lb.com  alright next time you’re throwing something on Instagram tag at latitude 38 maybe even invite him as  a collaborator we’ll see what happens

 

52:49

Oh, he’s giving me a card. All right, I got it in the pot. then you can find us at fairway.com. dot  TW.  And we’re also coming out with a  new item called the fairway Sea Dragon,  where it is a larger scrubber that can clean on the bottom of the boats.  Based on the design, it will suck onto the actual boat  and it’ll make it a lot easier for you to clean the bottom of the boats. OK, here’s here’s another idea for all of you. This is I’m gonna throw this out there. So I was doing the part of the Beach City races from San Francisco down to San Diego.  And I was on this

 

53:19

amazing 60-foot boat. It was my first big offshore race and we kept running into kelp issues. And it was the first time that I had ever had to be responsible, mid-channel, for de-kelping and it was a super simple setup. They basically had a knotted line that you go up onto the bow and a person on either side and you come back and you basically rake along and then you’d go down for the keel length and come up and do the rudder and get in you get it off.  I would love to see something where you can be two people on a boat, one on one side one on the other.

 

53:48

and they basically just do like a seesaw seahorse that can do it super easy, right? Something out of the water. I don’t know, what do you think about that?  Maybe it would work. Maybe only on  sailboats, but around the keel it could be probably challenging and around the running gear for sure. Like maybe on a Duffy or something. Yeah, Duffies would work. Where you just like, you maybe like you get people on either side, it’s like a little seesaw, but something about the mechanism so it’s not just on the point. Anyways, when you guys figure it out, let me know. We’ll go have these on it.

 

54:15

Okay, actually, you know Clark, what do you think about that? You’re the man with all these booths. Bye guys. Come over here. You’re not gonna believe it. Wait, what do you think about that idea? You want to go out on that business? absolutely. Okay, He’s just agreeing with me, but we love him. Oh, now have you ever seen another water scooter? I’ve seen some but I have not seen any like this. A computer built into this. No.

 

54:40

Oh my God, is this a video game right here? Is that what’s happening? Right here is Justin. All right, Justin, he’s taking a drink of water. Take a moment. Fellow Ginger, how are you? I’m well. How are you doing? I’m good. We’re here at the Good Jibes podcast. You’re talking to West Coast sailors right now. Yes. Yes. And Clark has been amazing showing us how he’s bringing everybody together. And he he literally dragged me over here and he’s like, have you ever seen this? And I’m like, no. So tell us about you. What’s going on here? And these look like.

 

55:09

Futuristic drones by the bond. Yes, ginger bond. It really is a whole nother level of fun in the water. Depending on the model, we have seven or eight different models. They dive anywhere from 30 to 40 meters. Wait, you’re OK. But like they dive. But then you got to bring yourself along with it, right? Hold on tight. OK, how are we equalizing that fast? I just did a free diving class and, you know, there’s a lot of different strategy techniques, but still you can drag down super fast. You’re going to blow your ears out.

 

55:39

Well, the nice thing about the vapor, this is our high-end unit here, the vapor. And describe it here. This is like two feet by… Yeah, it’s about 20, 24 inches, 19 pounds, torpedo-shaped, with a big top monitor. you’ve got a full It looks like a piece of a dashboard, like off of a car, like a BMW or a great screen to be able to read. That’ll give you your dive depth, it’ll give you water temperatures, it’ll give you… It has the It’ll give you oxygen too? Everything but. Why can’t we hook this up with a little breather? Yeah, next steps.

 

56:09

I’m telling you Clark, can mount something right here, even like a bike water bottle, and you get one of those old spare air 2000s, and then a little bit every once in a while? Actually, we taught Brownies Third Lung kayak diving back in 1990s. So, we’re talking about spare air. Okay, so, Sands of Spare Air, this sub blue. What does something like this run, and how fast is it?

 

56:33

I’m a sailor,  like, oh, I of course have zero space on my boat to put anything of worth value. I’m between like, you know, functional things and  exciting things.  This would take up not too much, maybe like…

 

56:48

force cubic feet or something?  that, yeah, and that really is one of the beauties of it is  they are lightweight, so they’re easy to kind of move around and you’re not tripping all over the boat,  over them all the time. me to put this on my sailboat though. You know, it’s kind of a one stop shopping for anything you want to do in the water. Whether you want to take a deep 30 meter dive or if you just want to play around with the sand What about lobster diving? This seems a little complicated.  Not necessarily, it comes in the tether.  This one, which is the Nabbo Plus. This looks like a hammerhead shark, by the way. Correct, yeah.

 

57:18

And this one at seven pounds  this has a single uh button

 

57:22

feature so you can actuate it with just a single hand. that’s great for spearfishing. Wow, that is pretty lightweight. Yeah. And then in the water it gets lighter I’d imagine too, right? Yeah, you don’t even feel weight in the water. Yeah. But something like lobster ring or spearfishing would be great for that. It’s a lot more maneuverable with one arm. Can we get a claw on it? So that, I mean, no, actually you have to grab lobsters with your hands. I’m sorry. I mean, yeah. Okay, so what does something like this run? And are there, I see there’s like three different…

 

57:52

Seven different models. Seven different ones, okay. So they started about $500 for what is our mix and we have the Mix Pro. Would you suggest somebody going in at like at a lower level just to see if they like it and then is there a good resale value to upgrade to something else?

 

58:07

Yeah, I mean the resale value I mean is good most people they really do if you maintain them and care for them properly They last forever So if anything they’re just passing them down to someone else and buying the next model up that they want But it really is like anything else just if you if you purchase for according to what your needs are gonna be and what you think You know how you want to use it if you have kids. Do you have to buy multiple? Does this incur fight any issues and civilian issues? That is actually interesting. No, it’s very because one person takes off, right?

 

58:37

Do have like a two-for-one deal or  something? You see you have kids I just have a sailboat. Okay, but but I love you as a sailboat because it is their kids Yeah, but Clark is like you just need this one and then we’ll find out you actually need two It’s it’s always more fun with a friend.  I have seven  Of course you do

 

58:59

Okay, so the lower end is 500. How much is the sweet dollar? To the NAVBO is a thousand. Okay. And that takes you up to about four miles an hour, a little bit more battery life than the previous model that we just spoke of, the MIX. Okay. And then you go to the Vapor and that retails at $3,000.

 

59:15

Six miles an hour, 40 meters of dive time, 45 minutes to an hour of battery life. So you can really go quite a long time on it. The other nice thing about it is the cone of the vapor just pops right off the front of the unit. You just put a new battery right in there. Ideally, you’re buying it with an additional battery and you have that one charged, pop it in, and then you’re never not operating. Bingo, bango, except that I only have a certain amount of battery power and my engine is the only thing that charges it.

 

59:45

have no solar or no external generator so it’d be like a one-pop shop.  If you got a GoPro you can you can use your GoPro.

 

59:55

There’s mounts up top for GoPro or camera mounts or anything you want to do. All right. Well, I think that not enough sailors know about this. I’d love to talk with you, Clark, about how we can get the information in front of people because I had never seen anything like this. I’ve seen scooters, but in my mind, they were just they were way bigger. Back in the day, the body glove boat would have one. They’d go to Catalina. You go and they’d give you a little.

 

01:00:16

wrist brands that were body glove and you get to use it and but this looks like next level. This is new era of scooters.  Okay, but tell me is next year this thing going to be half the price, half the size and twice as fast?  No,  I mean, I deal I hope think that we’re going to keep innovating realize have a great reason to come back and buy another one. Okay.  You want to go track me on that one. But we’re in our second year of the vapor right here. So

 

01:00:45

It’s still very new in the lineup.  All right. Well, thank you guys. And one more. Oh, one more. All right. We got one more. Thank you, sir.  So yeah, you can go to sublue.com, which is S-U-B-L-U-E,  sublue.com, and  all the information’s on there, all the models on there. But then you can also go to our dealer locator  and find all of our dealers that we have. Is there any final question? Is there any way for people to try them before they buy them? And I say that because, like, imagine if we did something where

 

01:01:11

whether it’s a  podcast episode that we invite people to come meet us and we’re at a spot where they can test it. Is there any way, is it hard to buy something without actually trying it? How do you deal with that in do have that program available.  It’s really just  partnering with our retailers.  They have demo units that they  can use.  And you just kind of coordinate with them and take it out. All right. But yeah. All right, well, let me know.  I’ll talk to Clark about seeing if…

 

01:01:37

You can give me a floor model from the show and then I’ll demo to all the sailors that I know and then I’ll give it back to you next year. Well,  one of the things we’ve done, we’ve partnered with, we’ve got  both  members here from Slovenia,  China,  Taiwan,  Florida,  Honduras,  and  this is our featured resort right here.  You got a resort too? Well, it’s our featured resort. We’re taking all the product to them.

 

01:02:06

So this is Laurie. Hey Laurie, nice to meet you. I’m Ryan. You’re saying hi to me and a whole bunch of thousands of sailors on the West Coast.  And we’ve been getting the classic Clark tour of this  six booth. call it Archipelago. The American Water Sports Archipelago. Very Archipelago. And so he brought us to you. You’re the last stop  on the shop here. Tell us about what’s going on.  Well, we are joining them as a host resort because our resort.

 

01:02:33

has several dive sites  that are  within a kayak distance. This is in Honduras? This is in Honduras. it’s  Guanaha,  Bay Islands, Honduras. Okay. And our resort is called Clearwater Paradise Resort.

 

01:02:50

And we have dive sites right outside our resort that are that you could take a kayak to and dive. The guy right the kayak over there. Yeah.  Right outside our resort is an underwater volcanic canyon.  OK, it’s called Black Rock Canyon.  I’m looking at pictures here. can do kayaking.  You can do diving, regular boat diving. They have hikes to waterfalls and caves  and.

 

01:03:19

Stay tuned for sailing. Okay, I like how you added that because I keep asking where the sails are on all these things.  But here’s here’s the thing like we have a lot of sailors actually who anchor  and then dive with us. Okay. And then stay on their boat and want to do their laundry.  Oh, and sometimes they like a meal,  you know, off the boat.

 

01:03:38

Oh, nice. We do get a lot of sailors. That’s nice of you to do that. Now, here’s the here’s the the the hundred and sixty seven thousand dollar question. There are so many people that are saying that they’re the resort to go to. And I got sort of bombarded by everyone.  What makes something like Clearwater Paradise  the place to be?  A multi sports resort. It’s got  a lot more than diving  featured. And matter of fact, if you go back in Lure.

 

01:04:05

That’s where the Crystal Skull is of  Indiana Jones fame  on that island.  Oh really? we can find the Skull.  Perfect. Watch out for the big rock though. The big rolling rock.  So  there are featured resort of the show and this is what we’re really excited about.  Indiana Jones adventure of a water lifetime with scooters  and turbocharged stand up paddle boards.

 

01:04:34

and laundry for your sailing. Yes, we’re available. All right. Well, Clark, thank you for the tour. Thank you for the insight to this paradise. I want to find the skull. I’d like to go. We’ll have to arrange. Maybe we get the we get a crew of our listeners out there and then we experience it and then we showcase that to the world. We’re going to have to stay in touch and we can do some exploring on the island, right? I’m totally down. Let’s let’s do this. Sounds like a partnership. How’s that? Yes, partnership.

 

01:05:03

Yes. All right. Well, thank you, Lori and everybody. OK. Final words here, Clark. I feel like we’re best friends now.  Where do you where are you based out of? We have places in Arkansas, Nevada and and  Arizona. Any on the West Coast like California? No. See, I’m your dude. We’re your people here. You got to get in touch with the West Coast sailors. So I’m glad that we got to meet you  full circle back here with Brendan and Justin inventors  and.

 

01:05:31

connoisseurs to help us all enjoy the ocean more. And we look forward to giving you any more information you need and we’d hope we’d invite you down to the resource. Let’s do it. I mean this sounds like a good jibes in Paradise Cove. As a matter of fact Justin and his lady friend probably will be coming down. Justin’s laughing. If your lady friend listens, what’s the official title?

 

01:05:56

Her name is Courtney. Okay, good, good.  I’m saving you there, Clark. I’m saving you. Thank you.  So they’re what? They’re going to go hang out there? Yes. So everybody here  is a partner. We’ll send an invite. Let’s go. Let’s get some media down there. Let’s do it. All right.  And we can race on the paddle boards.

 

01:06:12

100 % and we’ll add sails to the mix right I mean look at that dive flag if you it could definitely become an Asymmetrical or it could be a spinnaker just based on a little rigging. Well, you see the American waters first  Yep, banner there. Yeah service apply there.  I get it, but there’s no sails on your kayaks Have you heard the power kites?  Power kites. Yes  Yes

 

01:06:37

We do power kites on the kayak. You should have started with that. Let’s go power kite sailing. We’re the dive show. All right.  All right. We’re have to get you on as a guest host sometime. Thank you, Clark. Thank you, everybody. You guys have a good show.

 

01:06:52

And just like that,  I am exiting the Long Beach Convention Center  and finalizing my run through of every square inch of the International Scuba Show. I hope you enjoyed coming along with me and I met so many fascinating people, had some fun conversations, learned a lot, ended up with some new shoes  and a few more contacts.  Let’s consider this to be the end of part one.  You’ve made it thus far. There’s more to come next week.

 

01:07:20

But don’t forget, if this is your first time listening to the Latitude 38 Good Jibes podcast, don’t make it your last. You can subscribe where you get your podcasts, follow Latitude 38 on social media. If you know of a guest or you know of a cool show that you want me to come and cover with some live podcasting, you can email me at ryan at latitude38.com. If you want to learn more about me and my crazy adventures and how I help people get their ship together.

 

01:07:49

You can find me online at Ryan.online. So there you have it. I’m a little winded after walking all the way here, but I’m to my car,  my boat on the water, and we are going to take off and enjoy the rest of the day. I hope that you do the same.  Fair seas and following winds.  And stay tuned for another episode  of Good Jibes  next Tuesday,  every Tuesday. And if you’re ever bored and need a little bit of sailing for the soul, remember we’ve got  over,  well, we’ve got hundreds.  Well,

 

01:08:19

We’re close to 200. We’ve got plenty of episodes for you to cruise back and listen to.  And did you know that you can go online to Latitude38.com  and you can find and search every article  since the inception  in 1977.  So much cool sailing content,  so few time to do it.  Anyways,  I hope you all  the best of the day  and hopefully we’ll see you underwater soon.  Adios!

 

 

 

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